Sandy Loam

To sauce or not to sauce. That is the question. You're obviously a saucer, so vote accordingly.

Zod is dead.

You said Biden gave them "nothing." And then you got pwned with a big list of what was given to Ukraine. Now, I'm all for the land concession as long as the guaranteed-protection agreement has some real teeth, such as not necessarily making Ukraine a NATO member but an agreement that we and our European allies WILL attack your asses if you go after Ukraine or any other European country. I'll sit back and wait to see if this is Tough Trump or TACO Trump.

HT's ignorance is like a head extended out into a guillotine box. KA-CHOP!

I keep proving time and time again that I know more about the military, history, current events and common sense than you do. Probably hygiene and satisfying a woman as well.

WRONG!

Layoff the dumbass. It's not working for you. Vaccines weren't even mentioned here. (Exclusive.) She was allergic to certain types of food, much like you're allergic to intelligence. (Exclusive.)

Article 5-like "language" instead of Article 5-like ACTIONS. Hmmmmmmmm ...

Your BDS won't let you let go of the whole Biden cancer remark, the repeating of which does nothing to offset that Trump bragged and bragged and bragged about he would stop the war before his inauguration and that he would end it on Day 1. MAGAs are too dumb to see the difference between Trump's bold predicition and the MAGA whatabout to Biden's cancer remark. But seeing as you're so obsessed over it, then apply equal outrage to the two and agree that Trump's claim was as stupid as what you perceive Biden's claim to have been. If they're that much the same, then be outraged that Trump was unable to accomplish what and when he said he would accomplish it. Admit that at best, Trump is no better than Biden!

I have multiple times for years, dimwit. This is fresh news. But I have said many times that protection must be more than a handshake deal.

NATO-like protection. Maybe we are getting somewhere. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-steve-witkoff-nato-security-guarantees/

Trump staffers terrified with what they saw at the Putin meeting. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/msnbc-host-says-karoline-leavitt-044920313.html

Trump crippled our ability to keep the withdrawal from being messy and bloody. Fun fact.

Like a flock of birds flitting from one direction to another based on what the lead bird is doing, MAGAs just blindly and without question follow Trump. They were trumpeting him being a badass after the news conference with Putin, despite him offering up nothing more than calling the meeting productive, even though he didn't get the ceasefire he boldly said he was going there to get, and there would be consequences if he didn't get it. As it turns out, he chickened out and came out of there looking weak, with zero Russian concessions and Ukraine being asked to give up even more land. Have we ever had a president this weak? Here's a list from a simple Google search, not including this blatant act of weakness with Putin: Despite the subjective nature of these assessments, some presidents consistently appear in rankings of the weakest or least effective: James Buchanan: Frequently cited as one of the worst presidents, particularly for his failure to effectively address the growing sectional crisis that led to the Civil War. Andrew Johnson: Often criticized for his handling of Reconstruction, particularly his clashes with Congress and opposition to federally guaranteed rights for African Americans. Franklin Pierce: Accused of failing to prevent the country from drifting toward the Civil War. Warren G. Harding: His administration was plagued by corruption scandals, most notably the Teapot Dome scandal. Donald Trump: In recent surveys of scholars, Trump has been ranked as the lowest-performing president, with criticisms spanning from his approach to foreign policy to his impact on democratic norms and institutions. Some of these scholars highlight his disregard for political and institutional norms.

A NATO presence in Ukraine without that country necessarily joining NATO would be the only guarantee here, as far as I'm concerned. Agreements with Russia on paper are useless. When Ukraine broke from the Soviet Union, it agreed to give up nukes in exchange for Russia not attacking it, and in that agreement we agreed to help Ukraine in the event that Russia broke the agreement, which it did in 2014 with the takeover of Crimea and again in 2022 with this invasion. I would like to see Russia agree to some reparations here as well.

It is our problem because a Russian takeover of Ukraine would create all kinds of worldwide instability. Inflation exploded when Russia invaded Ukraine, and MAGAs whined and blamed Biden without doing a deeper dive into supply and demand. They's have something a lot bigger to whine about if Russia conquered Ukraine. The kind of nationalism and isolationism that MAGAs want has proven to be a bad thing in the past, time and time again. It didn't work prior to our entry into World War I, and it didn't work prior to our entry into World War II. MAGAs believe the war wouldn't have happened under Trump, and maybe it wouldn't have but not for the reasons they think. Trump caving into Putin underscores why it wouldn't have happened, because Trump is a puzzy when it comes to Putin and would have been working in Russia's best interests, like he's doing now. Putin is a lying, ruthless dictator who has caused millions of deaths in Ukraine. Trump wants Russia to keep what it has occupied and for Ukraine to give up unoccupied territory. Meanwhile, Russia concedes nothing. This is weak, shiit leadership. Trump not following through on his big, bad consequences threat without a ceasefire just shows you what a Putin bootlicker he is, and now our longtime allies hate us.

Yeah, MAGAs elected a convicted felon as president. Insanity.

Well said. It's like MAGAs have forgotten the Cold War and long, ugly history with Russia because Trump likes in in the rump from Putin and wants our country to be more like Russia, which he is efforting to do in myriad authoritarian ways, including the judicial system, gerrymandering, vindictively going after his opponents, using the military to occupy cities and attacking the media. MAGAs favor a dictatorship over a democracy, as flawed as the latter might be. The free world needs to stick up for Ukraine and Europe.

It worked out in the form of 34 felony convictions. That's farther than the Russian charges and the Ukranian lawmaker will ever get with Zelensky, boyo.

They did get him on 34 felonies and impeached him twice. Trump is a convicted felon.

OK, so how do you feel about the deep cuts to cancer research?

MAGAs made Trump out to be this negotiating tough guy, and he came away from the Putin meeting with his ass bleeding, no ceasefire and nothing in the way of a deal with Russia other than conceding all of the occupied Ukrainian soil and Ukraine giving up unoccupied territory. This is him being a chicken. FART OF THE DEAL!

He would be had he not won the election. You know this. He'd also still be facing all those other felony charges elsewhere and likely convicted of them.

Yep, TACOing again. Big, bad Trump said there would be severe consequences for Russia without a ceasefire. No ceasefire, and now he's trying to give away parts of Ukraine like Halloween candy. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/16/world/europe/trump-putin-ukraine-ceasefire-peace-deal.html

Sounds like an old-school Geek-meet to me. Color me in.