Mrsteak21

Where are all the d-bags that fully believed the US Navy's story to a T? 1) kpbuckeye 2) davebg 3) budbro 4) swamp dog Im sorry but govt and military lies to us on a continual basis, you can just live in your little shell and shield yourself from reality or you can grow up and start challeging the govt and doing a little research on a subject outside the nightly news. This story is complety torn apart - I appreciate wiffleball linking the article where many naval officers put this to bed. CANT YOU TOOLS FIGURE OUT BY NOW THAT BUSH WANTS WAR WITH IRAN NO MATTER WHAT? THE GOVT WILL GO TO ANY LENGTH TO LINE THE POCKETS OF THEIR BUDDIES - IRAQ WAS A SCAM AND ALL OF THESE IRANIAN "THREATING GESTURES" ARE A SCAN AS WELL- WAKE UP! And no I am not a liberal, I am as conservative as they come so dont try that card. Most of you that call yourself "republican" or "conservative" have no idea what the original party/term meant.

Almost every point you made is incorrect Pete. Here are a couple of videos made from Kare 11 news (the minneapolis NBC affiliate): They basically tear corn based ethanol apart, they talk about how much gas it takes to make, the big time decrease in fuel mileage, etc. Watch both and you might learn something. Part 1: http://www.kare11.com/video/player.aspx?si...5&aid=57143 Part 2 (the road test): http://www.kare11.com/video/player.aspx?si...2&aid=57197 Corn based ethanol will never work, plus you guys dont realize the Govt subsidizes it aka uses your tax money to make E85 cheaper than regular gas. Grass based ethanol should work, but good luck getting the farmer lobby out of the way.

Bottom line the pieces of info on this issue dont add up, more media outlets are wising up and disputing the official govt story. The govt has changed their story multiple times already. It is important to review and question everything the govt tells you especially after they were caught lying to get us into this quagmire called Iraq. If someone lies to me im going to start questioning everything they say, once you do that it is a lot easier to see how full of it the govt is. Sadam was not a threat to the US in any way and could never potentially be. We had a fricking no fly zone over the country with complete air dominance. What was Sadam going to do? - send us a rude email with a virus??? He had absolutely no power to touch us. My problem with you is that you believe the US should help solve everyone elses problems. People are murdered all the time in this world but that doesnt mean we have the obligation to go "save" everyone (by the way a majority of the iraqi people dont even want us there anymore - USA today article/poll google it). People are being killed in Kenya, Dafur, N. Korea, Columbia, etc. - should the US police go there and risk the lives of our people to save other people? Oh and by the way Sadam was not one of the top 5 mass murders in history - not even close he was maybe top 20, google that too. Im sorry but the US should look out for its own interests first, then focus on direct threats to us. Iraq and Iran arent threats, hell we have thousands of illegal muslims coming into this country from the Mexican border - they are a threat before anyone in Iraq or Iran.

terrorists are different from the Iranians first off, Al Qaida is not Iran or Iraq or Saudi Arabia or any other middle east country - there are a small group of radicals. I know you are conditioned by the media and GW that every muslim is a terrorist but there is a difference. second - the british were in Iranian waters when they were detained, the british soldiers also confessed to being in Iranian waters - google it. Im done with you. You are most obviously another sheep that follows GW's every command. Another kill them all and let god sort em out kind of dumb hillbilly.

No one is saying that retard. My point is that the govt spliced some video and audio and made this situation exaggerated the american public so Joe Schmo buys it and gets on the attack Iran bandwagon - just like you tools bought the Iraq WMDs story. Answer this question for me - why would the Iranians buzz US ships to "provoke" an attack by the US. The iranian army is a joke, the navy and air force arent even mentionable. The US would bomb this place into a mess without much resistance. Why would Iran want that? Why would they entice the US to blow up their precious nuclear program before it is even produced a bomb? It defys simple logic and that is why I dont buy this story. Only one side in this argument wants to destroy Iran and it definently isnt Iran.

wow you are quick, that is exactly what I am saying. The transmission didnt come from the ships. Read the article there are thousands of radio transmissions happening all the time - it is documented that it is basically trucker communication times 10. There are so many people talking on those frequencys that how in the world can the govt pull a couple sentences out of that mess and say they were from the Iranians. Its a complete joke and if you cant see that im sorry for you. Between the time that i posted this thread and now, the major media outlets are also ripping this story apart. Wise up, read and you might learn something.

No you dumbfock - why no wind, water or engine noise on the audio recording of the so called radio transmission from the iranian ship? Open cockpit boats going 40mph+ would not be able to transmit clear conversation. If you dont believe me stick your head out of a window at 40 pmh+ and talk in a normal tone - no way someone even next to you in the car could make out what you said. Also wrong accent for an Iranian......Gulf of Tonkin II, Iraq III here we come. Jump on board everybody Iranian 19 ft outboard boats buzzed us! That for sure should be reason enough to bomb/nuke/invade them for sure!!! Also, how do we "know" that those boats were for sure Iranian military? They could be dumb civilians for all we know, nobody in the US has their own personal boat do they???

Easy to commit fraud, easy to hack into - sole source of voting in 81% of the election in New Hampshire, 100% in Connecticut, almost all of Massachusetts and most of Vermont. Link to security expert on Diebold machines (about 10 min long but really good): Boy, i sure feel good about that. Why use a system that experts have said is unsafe and open to fraud? Simple answer: so they can manipulate votes. Pretty scary stuff, sorry if old news. Also, check out the HBO film Hacking Democracy - really interesting.

I nominate this the early winner for dumbest post of 2008. Nuff said.

from Joel Skousen's http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/

Ron Paul will not win, but should finish top 4. His real chance is New Hampshire where his beliefs and more aligned to the populations. I predict a big showing in NH.

Assassins Creed is sick. I have it for PS3 and was so addicted I beat it in like 2 days. The only negative I have on it is that in the beginning of the game there is way too much video scenes with out a chance to interact. Your character is stuck talking to other characters for too long but the farther you go the less it happens.

Well he was a shitty assitant coach, but hey whatever you say......and dont come back with assitant vs. head coach crap either. It is called players - he had them this year, and didnt last year or the year before.....

Ron Paul, Candidate Beating records like candy (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2...undraising.html Shock the world big dog Libertarian? It is mid-America See you in NH

This made me spit out my vodka diet literally..... if you dont think that Kenya is corrupt as hell, let alone South Africa, Nigeria, Zimbawae, Somalia, etc.... arent you are an idiot. Here is an article from the Associated Press - I think it will shut your @ss up: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/26/...a-Elections.php There are plenty more where that came from.......try google.com it works well!

I am a Liddell homer and I am looking for a 2nd round KO....I think both fighters will feel each other out in the 1st round and then Liddle will catch him with a big hit and send him down. As far as Hughes vs. Georges St. Pierre goes - as much as I want Hughes to win I am feeling another St. Pierre domination....

How about that little thing in the Constitution that says that only Congress can approve WAR? I guess Bush listened to that huh??? A little executive approvals gets his ass right around all that mess called the Constitution....... by the way I am not getting on you at all. Just a RON PAUL supporter here. If you see my car in MN with the rear window RON PAUL REVLOVEUTION give me a honk or two. Making noise in New Hampshire......Dr. Ron Paul......go get um......make 'em say hgh.............

Colston got hurt - ankle i believe, he went to the locker room in the 2nd quarter and has not been on the field since

Pick one : Darius Walker, the bad AP, or Fred Jackson? Musty I know.....

Inactives are always posted on NFL.com one hour before kickoff.

I love the Chai Tea Latte as well......sorry to say but my GF hooked me on them. Nothing better.

Get back to me when Iran tries to take over the world.......fools.

So if Iran says it has stopped, the nuclear inspectors say they stopped, the president and administration has said they have stopped, other world powers have said they have stopped - you still think they are?!?!?! And you think we are the ones that are "buying the garbage".... Wow you are a moron.

You are flat out wrong on almost all of you above posts. 1) Labor practices became better because of unions, not the govt 2) Mail delivery? You have to be kidding me if you are using this as an example of govt improvement.....how much as the govt been involved with FedEx or UPS?? 3) Food saftey is still bad, the FDA has gotten in trouble multiple times in the last few years for letting tainted food AND deadly drugs get approval (ever heard of Vioxx, oh and the lists goes on and on) 4) Slavery was a movement of the people not the govt. 4th grade history shows that the North was against it and the South was for it. The people started the movement that led to war - not congressmen or the govt 5) Segregation - see above on slavery, the people react first, then the govt passes law based on what the people want, not the other way around. 6) Pollution - I will give you this one. The govt was the only enity that could force more expensive, cleaner equipment. Govt and bigger govt never innovate anything, they are full of corruption and they have no reason to control costs. They are inefficient and slow to react. Less govt and more private corportations/entities would fix a lot of the mess in this current administration.

A great commentary....that guy hits it on the head and I agree with him 100%, and I would guess the majority of the US would too if the media would actually cover Dr. Paul.