Ron_Artest

Imagine telling half the country that you hate them. His brain is shot.

Had a bunch of people over yesterday, had a great time, wasn't on my phone. Same with today, another crowd, but have some time this morning before I need to start cleaning and prepping. First off I'm not a liar, you didn't prove me wrong, but let's be honest here, neither of us can predict the future. You saying that only illegals and able bodied Americans will lose their health insurance is as much of a guess as me saying that 10m Americans will lose their health insurance. Their are provisions in the bill that limit who can receive Medicaid in the future. The amount of spending for Medicaid is being reduced as well. So the clear intent of the law of to reduce healthcare. The question is who will lose it. In your post you didn't list all the provisions so you're being dishonest. You're also being dishonest about the rules of unintended consequences. The messaging by Republicans has been "illegals and 30 year old men playing video games on their parents basement". This is to sway your opinion but it's not true. We have to look at independent analysis and past results. We have groups that have done the analysis like the CBO and we have Arkansas and Georgia that tried this and we have seen it's been more people losing healthcare than the illegals and deadbeats. If you're really being honest here are some links. https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/a-closer-look-at-the-medicaid-work-requirement-provisions-in-the-big-beautiful-bill Good article I read this morning going into detail in North Carolina https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/04/rural-americans-medicaid-cuts-trump-bill I'll also add that people will still get healthcare. Instead of getting preventative care which is cheaper, they will get emergency care which is way more expensive, that they can't pay for, so then the rest of us pay for it anyway. Here is an article about a guy who died in Arkansas who messed up his work requirement reporting, lost coverage, couldn't afford medication, lost job, died. https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/as-republicans-push-work-requirements-in-medicaid-one-state-offers-a-cautionary-tale Thousands more like this https://www.wbaa.org/science-medicine/2019-02-18/in-arkansas-thousands-of-people-have-lost-medicaid-coverage-over-new-work-rule https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/18/18146261/arkansas-medicaid-work-requirements-enrollment https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/24/trump-medicaid-funding-budget-cuts This will likely happen nationally. When? Looks like after the midterms the requirements will kick in. So we're likely to hear a lot of "wut happened to peepull dying?" Crap that you guys like to pull. They didn't want the harm and stories getting out until another election. I'm going to be having fun today and not posting much but interested to see if you are at all capable of having an honest discussion about this.

@Voltaire just when I was ready to thank you for being honest and open to learning you post that If you can't Google I'll do it for you but I'm pretty busy this morning. Maybe someone else will help you otherwise I'll do it later.

I get it. Unfortunately you are being lied to. There are independent analysis estimating it will be more than just a bags and illegals.

You're not making any sense. The bill doesn't specify who they are kicking off by name. The bill puts forth certain provisions that Americans must now abide by in order to receive Medicaid. The intent is to lower the number of Americans and they have in turn lowered the Medicaid funding. It's all in the bill. Trying to deny it just makes you look stupid. You would be better off being honest by saying you don't think the federal govt should be funding healthcare to the degree that it did. Just admit that you believe in less social programs for Americans.

RIP Horseman

You want names and addresses?

And 10M Americans

Millions of Americans. It's not just able bodied people that will lose their coverage, which is bad enough, but there are other provisions put in place to get to the trillion in cuts.

The proof is the bill. Stop gaslighting. The bill reduces Medicaid and snap funding. Does it not?

Which means what exactly? States will either raise taxes to feed people or they will vote not to and people will starve. Sounds great huh?

No, the money is removed from the budget and given to rich people. He didn't give anything to the states

Almost 3M Americans including many kids school lunches. Let the kids starve, billionaires need more yachts.

Not MSDNC, the CBO.

Explain it to me, Maxipad.

I guess the gaslighting begins now. There's no cuts to Medicaid. No cuts to food assistance. There is no language in the bill that says people will eat less or you will be forbidden to see a doctor. And you wonder why most of America hates this bill and this president.

Cuts to Medicaid means removing healthcare. Do I really need to explain this to you?

Independence from tyranny, freedom for life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, ideals of honesty and integrity, dignity for all, equality and prosperity. Let's remember what America is really about and how one day it will return.

Tim hack, doing the yeomans work on a holiday.

You too? No cuts to Medicaid? Seriously?

You're seriously going to try and argue that there are no cuts to Medicaid? Medicare won't need to be cut due to the increase in debt? At least have the balls to admit it. You won. Congrats.

Maybe when I was younger, but no I don't share any streaming services, I have my own family plan for mobile service, own insurance, etc. I can afford to act like an adult and do it the right way. I learned about these boxes a year or so ago because I saw them being sold at a flea market and was curious how it worked. I'm into tech stuff. I learned about it, how it's not exactly legal, and ripe for viruses, thought I would share with the OP.

I'm a trash investor because I don't scam for services? Sorry I just assumed you were an adult. Carry on.

I pay for your healthcare.