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How can any of us sleep at night knowing these Venezuelan gangs (all wearing Hugo Chavez t-shirts) are taking over our cities?

Trump is now claiming that the photo op at Arlington Cemetery was a set up by Biden/Harris Administration.

Denver Post editorial: https://www.denverpost.com/2024/08/30/aurora-venezuelan-gang-fact-check-tren-de-aragua/ Editorial: Is a violent gang of illegal immigrants taking over Aurora? Is Aurora overrun by a gang of illegal immigrants? Of course not. The conservative and liberal mayors of Aurora and Denver have even come together to dispel the sensationalized reports of rampant gun violence. There also is no vast conspiracy to cover up the gang activity of Tren de Aragua, an international criminal organization that is run by Venezuelan nationals across South America and is behind the criminal organization of recent arrivals in America who likely arrived illegally or using the asylum system. The Denver Post and other mainstream news outlets have covered the emergence of this gang in America, but also have maintained perspective on the size, threat and activities of the gang, unlike some who are using incidents in Aurora and Denver to fuel fear of other Venezuelans and asylum seekers. Others, like the owners of an apartment beset with crime in Aurora, are using the gang as a scapegoat for the unsanitary, unsafe and unhealthy conditions of their apartments that were condemned by the city this month. Aurora is an extremely diverse city of about 400,000 people. It has always had some gang activity – same with Denver, Commerce City, Arvada, Westminster, and Lakewood. The addition of the Tren de Aragua gang to the mix is a dangerous complication, but not a cause for panic, fleeing the city, or calling 911 without cause. [...] Homeland Security Investigations regional spokeswoman Alethea Smock, told The Denver Post this month that the gang was an emerging threat in Denver. But as Aurora’s Republican Mayor Mike Coffman and Denver’s Democratic Mayor Mike Johnston told 9News Thursday night in a joint interview, their cities are still safe. The danger of blowing things out of proportion, however, is very real. The vast majority of Venezuelan refugees and migrants from other South American countries have come to America for a chance at freedom and to escape the violence in their home countries. We cannot demonize them because a small proportion of the thousands of recent arrivals have banded together to commit crimes. Let’s catch the criminals, deport them, and secure our southern border so we can ensure bad eggs aren’t getting in with the good people seeking work permits, liberty and a better life for their children.

No, it won't come at all.

https://x.com/POTUS/status/1829608392253399201 My dad used to say, “Joey, a job is about more than a paycheck. It’s about your dignity. It's about respect. It’s about being able to look your kid in the eye and say, ‘It’s going to be okay.'" He was right. I've worked to make that a reality for every family in this country.

They have been deft so far in how they have handled this.

No I didn't.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/30/nx-s1-5095227/kamala-harris-interview-cnn-analysis 4. We did get some clearer policy ideas Asked what she would do on Day 1, Harris said she would look for ways to “strengthen” the middle class and start trying to implement her “Opportunity Economy” plan she laid out last week to bring prices down and try to make homes more affordable. Specifically, Harris talked in this interview about: Extending a $6,000 child tax credit to families for first year of a child’s life, and her A $25,000 first-time homebuyer tax credit She has noted other proposals in the course of this truncated campaign, like wanting to try to pass the John Lewis voting rights bill, which Republicans have blocked, and wanting to revive the border-security bill Biden drafted with conservative Republicans that Trump opposed and the GOP-led House then killed. Harris has been dinged for not putting forward deep policy proposals, but no candidate campaigns successfully as a walking policy memo. Campaigns do usually roll out policy papers that include cost analyses and the like, and Harris hasn’t done that, but neither has Trump in a serious way. Plus, presidential campaigns are really about big ideas and what direction a candidate wants to take the country, especially in this election, when people have such strong and ingrained feelings about Trump. [...]

I think renaming it The MAGA Racists Thread would be more apt.

https://x.com/AhmedBaba_/status/1829336742765170813 This is the perfect way to handle this. Kamala Harris hasn’t taken Donald’s bait and humored any of his petty, bigoted attacks about her identity. Harris sticks to her message. Smart.

They have no sense of irony or hyprocrasy. Trump getting a fake medical excuse to avoid military service entirely is fine with them, but they are critical of Walz who served a total of 24 years in various units and jobs in the Army National Guard.

It is a good think you don't make sweeping generalizations.

Straw Man #2

That is not analogous, Straw Man.

No they speak for all the Latinos that were offended.

They didn't have look very hard for a reason to be offended here.

It is amazing. No one has blamed Kamala Harris for this.

You Go Girl! https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1829331750142578877 (Video clip from CNN at link) Q: I want to ask you about what Trump said last month. He suggested that you ‘happened to turn Black,’ questioning a core part of your identity Vice President Harris: Same old tired playbook. Next question please Q: That's it? Vice President Harris: That's it

Yes it is. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trumps-bad-hombres-draws-jeers-spanish-lessons To some, Trump’s ‘bad hombres’ is much more than a botched Spanish word PHOENIX — Donald Trump’s utterance of “bad hombres” offended some of the millions of people watching the final presidential debate, who called it racially divisive. Within minutes of using the phrase Wednesday evening, the Republican presidential nominee was getting a lashing about his mishmash of English and Spanish. “We have some bad hombres here, and we’re gonna get ’em out,” said Trump, whose rise to the party nomination was fueled in part by his plan to build a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border. He blamed these “hombres,” (OHM-brays) Spanish for men, for drug epidemics around the U.S. Trump has worked to broaden his appeal to Hispanics, promising a better life if he’s president. But to some voters, it’s a lost cause. Taylor Brandreth watched the debate while visiting in Bradenton, Florida. He backed Trump in the primary in Virginia, where he works as a government consultant, but that was mainly to block Sen. Marco Rubio from clinching the GOP nomination. Now he’s a Hillary Clinton supporter, and it’s largely because of what he considers Trump’s racially divisive tactics, including the use of “Spanglish.” “I speak Spanish fluently. I have to honestly say, listening to it, my jaw just instantly dropped because it was like a taunt,” said Brandreth, 27. “There was nothing good in the context. It was like, ‘Let me say something awful and racist and let me butcher this other language while I’m doing it.'”

They certainly were when Trump first used that phrase.

I was just thinking we need another thread on this.

Latinos find it offensive, racist, and pejorative - so I will take their word for it.

It is not pretending. The term is Spanglish and considered pejorative and racist by Latinos. On more than one occasion, I proved it in the past with links to Hispanic groups and individuals who found its use extremely offensive. But as you can see, it didn't do any good with the OP, so I am not taking the time to research it again.