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Some here in this thread (like you) did not expect Democrats to be vocal in their oppostion to this become it was a "no lose" situation for Trump.

I've often wondered the same about you.

And it doesn't seem to bother his supporters any, which is rather puzzling.

That troubles me too given the current composition of SCOTUS, but the court corrrectly ruled at that time that burning the flag represented "symbolic speech." I remember arguments raised at the time in favor of the decision that prosecuting someone for flag desecration was a "slippery slope" and might also cover buring other representations of the flag (for instance clothing items comprised of elements of the flag (stars, stripes, and flag colors).

How exactly is the new cracker barrel logo woke?

What's with Trump's hands? Nothing, he just can't put his makeup on properly and sticks it sticks to his paws.

https://x.com/tribelaw/status/1960291356347163017 No, Straw Man, the Governor didn't say that, but his response is just the beginning of the blowback. Trump expected these Governors to meekly roll over and acquiesce to the National Guard occupation. Ain't gonna happen. https://x.com/tribelaw/status/1960291356347163017 “This is about the president of the United States and his complicit lackey, Stephen Miller, searching for ways to lay the groundwork to circumvent our democracy, militarize our cities, and end elections.” — Illinois Governor JB Pritzker (8/25/25)

Not according to my Google AI AI Overview As of January 20, 2025, President Donald Trump issued sweeping pardons and commutations that covered all individuals, including those who assaulted police, convicted of offenses related to the January 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol . The presidential proclamation applied to everyone charged in the investigation, making no distinction between those who committed violent acts and those with lesser offenses. .

It has come to this. https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/minnesota-teen-says-server-forced-prove-gender-restaurant-bathroom-rcna224562 Minnesota teen says server forced her to prove her gender in restaurant bathroom A Minnesota teenager filed a charge of discrimination against a Buffalo Wild Wings restaurant Tuesday, alleging a server followed her into the women’s restroom and demanded she “prove” she was a girl. Gerika Mudra, 18, went to dinner in April with a friend in Owatonna, about an hour south of Minneapolis. When she went to the restroom, a server followed her inside and banged on the stall door while saying: “This is a women’s restroom. The man needs to get out of here,” according to Gender Justice, a Minnesota gender-equality organization that filed the charge on Mudra’s behalf. Mudra, a biracial lesbian who isn’t transgender, said that she has been in similar situations before, when people have suggested she’s in the wrong restroom, but that when she tells them she’s a woman they leave her alone. However, when she came out of the stall at Buffalo Wild Wings and told the server, “I am a lady,” she said, the server responded, “You have to get out now,” Gender Justice said in a statement. Mudra said she felt she had to prove to the server that she is a woman, so she unzipped her hoodie to show she has breasts. The server didn’t say anything in response but left the restroom, Mudra said. “She made me feel very uncomfortable,” Mudra said. “After that, I just don’t like going in public bathrooms. I just hold it in. ... I want to be able to use the bathroom in peace.” Inspire Brands, which represents Buffalo Wild Wings, didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

Exactly. And can anyone remember the last time someone burning a US flag incited a riot? Maybe in the Vietnam protests era, but I can't recall anything in more recent memory.

From my cursory reading of the executive order I don't think Trump has made any distinction. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/prosecuting-burning-of-the-american-flag/

OK, so, let's follow the Trump logic here... Bashing a cop on the head with the US flag on Jan 6 gets you a pardon, but burning it will now get you a year in jail... That makes sense.

Otherwise known as Due Process, which Garcia was initially denied, which is why he became a topic of national discussion and a cause célèbre for Democrats and liberals. For some reason MAGA folks here want to fast track all deporations and circumvent the Constitution.

Where does he dig up these so-called facts? Where are the reports of people burning flags all over the country? When was the last time someone burning a flag incited a riot? And SCOTUS ruled years ago that buring the US flag is Constitutionally protected freedom of speech.

Wait...what? Kilmar Abrego Garcia had been terrorizing our country?

https://x.com/BlueATLGeorgia/status/1959977319805624406 (video clip at link) Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg on Kilmar Abrego Garcia: "There was no need for them to take him into ICE detention. He was already on electronic monitoring from the U.S. Marshals Service and basically on house arrest. The only reason that they've chosen to take him into detention is to punish him for exercising his constitutional rights."

ICE is acting in direct violation of a court order. https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1959953927438241885 Breaking: Kilmar Abrego García has just been detained by ICE after arriving at the agency's Baltimore field office as part of a required check-in, according to his attorney. "The only reason to take him into detention was to punish him."

SMH What has this country become?

Probaby not but if that becomes the new talking point trumpeted on the right, his poll numbers might take a substantial hit.

I dunno, Timmy, I am not sure eliminating the enforcement of all misdemeanor crimes is going to win him that many votes.

For those who said this politically would be a "no lose" proposition for Trump, the blowback has begun: https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1959660741704737165 Gov. JB Pritzker: "There is no emergency that warrants the President of the United States federalizing the Illinois National Guard." "Donald Trump is attempting to manufacture a crisis, politicize Americans who serve in uniform, and continue abusing his power to distract from the pain he is causing working families."