RamslovaMartzhata 3 Posted July 19, 2006 2005 Stats for Manning 16 Games - 453 ATT - 305 COMP - 67.3% - 3747 yds - 28 TD's - 10 ints - 2 Fumbles - (45 yds rush) Up or Down? My Take I hear a lot of people saying that they think Manning's numbers will increase with the loss of Edge (presumably because they will have to pass more). I disagree and think his numbers will go down for two reasons. 1) With Edge there, you had to play the Colts honestly. They were a two pronged attack and could beat you via the run or through the air obviously. As most know, the Colts run a unique offense where they call most of the plays at the line of scrimmage. I am guessing that in the early part of the season, defenses are going to play to stop Manning through the air more so than in recent years. That's what they did in the early part of the seaosn, and Edge had a monster first half. But when team starte repsecting Edge more, Manning started to get rolling a bit more. They are going to dare the Colts to rely heavily on Rhodes and Addai. If those guys can't get it done... that takes a BIG part of the Colts passing game away. A lot of their passing game is based off play action, of which Manning is the very best. But those fakes aren't going to mean nearly as much. Then if the Colts get behind and they have to rely on the passing game too much... that just isn't good for any team, even the Colts. 2) Schedule. This year is much tougher than the last two years IMO. Last year they had non divisional games against the NFC West and AFC North. Two years ago it was the AFC East and NFC North. This year they have the NFC East and AFC East along with "match-up games" vs Denver and Cincy. While their AFC non division opponents are comparable... the NFC East this year versus the NFC West and North in the previous years... sorry that is going to be tough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyTom 0 Posted July 19, 2006 2005 Stats for Manning 16 Games - 453 ATT - 305 COMP - 67.3% - 3747 yds - 28 TD's - 10 ints - 2 Fumbles - (45 yds rush) Up or Down? My Take I hear a lot of people saying that they think Manning's numbers will increase with the loss of Edge (presumably because they will have to pass more). I disagree and think his numbers will go down for two reasons. 1) With Edge there, you had to play the Colts honestly. They were a two pronged attack and could beat you via the run or through the air obviously. As most know, the Colts run a unique offense where they call most of the plays at the line of scrimmage. I am guessing that in the early part of the season, defenses are going to play to stop Manning through the air more so than in recent years. That's what they did in the early part of the seaosn, and Edge had a monster first half. But when team starte repsecting Edge more, Manning started to get rolling a bit more. They are going to dare the Colts to rely heavily on Rhodes and Addai. If those guys can't get it done... that takes a BIG part of the Colts passing game away. A lot of their passing game is based off play action, of which Manning is the very best. But those fakes aren't going to mean nearly as much. Then if the Colts get behind and they have to rely on the passing game too much... that just isn't good for any team, even the Colts. 2) Schedule. This year is much tougher than the last two years IMO. Last year they had non divisional games against the NFC West and AFC North. Two years ago it was the AFC East and NFC North. This year they have the NFC East and AFC East along with "match-up games" vs Denver and Cincy. While their AFC non division opponents are comparable... the NFC East this year versus the NFC West and North in the previous years... sorry that is going to be tough. Ok - so he will only throw 42 TD's this year instead of 45. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bushwood 1 Posted July 19, 2006 moving up. indy actually plays the easiest pass defense schedule in the NFL. Two years ago, when manning blew up, they also had the easiest pass defense schedule. The loss of Edge will affect the offense some. Whether or not this effect is positive or negative on manning's numbers we won't know until we're a few weeks into the season (although i doubt this will impact mannings numbers significantly). I will target manning and try to grab him as early as pick six. If not gifted a top three pick, i will hope for about slot 10 or 11 and snag him then. bushwood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rebooters 1 Posted July 19, 2006 i say moving up from last year. indy actually has the 3rd toughest passing schedule in the leauge. http://www.fftoolbox.com/2006/strength_of_...dule.cfm?type=c ...4th ranked for QB and 2nd ranked for WR so i said 3rd. i think the loss of james actually helps the passing numbers. indy wont be able to run as effectively as they did with james so they should pass more. in the past, they have been able to pass with success even when defenses were trying to stop their pass. peyton is the best qb in the league and he has very good recievers and a nice OL so he will succeed and improve on last years numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites