fantasyfan13 0 Posted January 2, 2003 sorry ty and dr.j i'm having problems sending out e-mails.So ty as long as you still agree with this go ahead and post here. P.Burress and ty's 4.04 pick for Gordon,Pinkston and ff13's 1.02 pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick 2 Posted January 3, 2003 I want a explanation from FantasyFan before I vote. Why do you think this helps your rebuilding team? ~STICK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasyfan13 0 Posted January 3, 2003 this helps my team, because i didn't really have any steady scoring from my wr position all year.And burress is one of the youngest best upcoming wr's in the game right now.And with burress and holt.It could give me 1 of the best wr groups in the league.I will also still have the 1st pick in the draft.And to be honest with you their is only 1 runningback going into this years draft i'm sold on.And with a core group of william green,holt,burress and mcgahee i'd feel pretty good about my chances in this league for years to come.Of course now later down the road i might be kicking myself for trading away the 1.2 pick because their was a different position i was looking at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Topes 0 Posted January 3, 2003 YES. I've made my share of trades, and think I've come out ahead overall. However, Ty is truly the master. I am indeed jealous. Combining this with his trade with Scooby, we see that Plaxico Burress has been very good indeed for Mr. Cobb. Ty has proven that you can trade away all your future drafts, and get them back again. (Something DrJ is prolly jealous of, as well. ) Ty has become a force in the 2003 draft, having danced with Plaxico for a while. And he still has Harrison and Owens. :eek: To sum up these two trades, Ty has traded away the following: WR Joe Horn TE Wesley Walls 2003 4.04 pick ...and received in return: 2003 1.02 pick 2003 1.07 pick 2004 Scooby's #1 2004 Scooby's #3 RB Lamar Gordon WR Todd Pinkston (in essence, three first-rounders --and then some-- for Joe Horn) That's the work of a true master. Granted, most of the benefit came on the Scooby trade, a true head-scratcher. I think this here trade is very good for Ty's squad, as well. He trades away a very good WR in Burress. Is Burress worth the 1.02 pick alone? Probably. Is he worth much more? Probably not. But Ty gets more, anyway. He scores a potentially quality RB in Gordon, and much-needed depth at WR in Pinkston. His brilliance in the boardroom will certainly make Ty's playoff loss this coming season all the more painful. Clinton Portis, 2500 from scrimmage and 20 TDs. You heard it here first, folks! Fantasyfan: I hope, for your sake, that McGahee does indeed come out this year. Cuz I still thinks the odds be 50-50. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasyfan13 0 Posted January 3, 2003 Originally posted by Topes:YES. I've made my share of trades, and think I've come out ahead overall. However, Ty is truly the master. I am indeed jealous. Combining this with his trade with Scooby, we see that Plaxico Burress has been very good indeed for Mr. Cobb. Ty has proven that you can trade away all your future drafts, and get them back again. (Something DrJ is prolly jealous of, as well. ) Ty has become a force in the 2003 draft, having danced with Plaxico for a while. And he still has Harrison and Owens. :eek: To sum up these two trades, Ty has traded away the following: WR Joe Horn TE Wesley Walls 2003 4.04 pick ...and received in return: 2003 1.02 pick 2003 1.07 pick 2004 Scooby's #1 2004 Scooby's #3 RB Lamar Gordon WR Todd Pinkston (in essence, three first-rounders --and then some-- for Joe Horn) That's the work of a true master. Granted, most of the benefit came on the Scooby trade, a true head-scratcher. I think this here trade is very good for Ty's squad, as well. He trades away a very good WR in Burress. Is Burress worth the 1.02 pick alone? Probably. Is he worth much more? Probably not. But Ty gets more, anyway. He scores a potentially quality RB in Gordon, and much-needed depth at WR in Pinkston. His brilliance in the boardroom will certainly make Ty's playoff loss this coming season all the more painful. Clinton Portis, 2500 from scrimmage and 20 TDs. You heard it here first, folks! Fantasyfan: I hope, for your sake, that McGahee does indeed come out this year. Cuz I still thinks the odds be 50-50. trust me when i tell you, i usually wouldn't do a trade like this.This is the 1st time i've gone for a ty low ball.But i think this could really help my team.I was asking for more out of this trade, but he was also.And i know he basically got burress for nothing in a trade before which i couldn't really understand.But i guess people don't understand this one for me.But i've seen much worse that have ended up working out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Topes 0 Posted January 3, 2003 Good luck, fantasy. Burress is indeed very good. I hope this works out for you. I was mainly bringing up both trades, and emphasized how Ty got Burress for nothing, which --like you said-- you had no control over... Ty's looking unstoppable next year. QB Rick Gannon QB Steve McNair RB Deuce McAllister RB Marshall Faulk WR Marvin Harrison WR Terrell Owens WR Rod Smith ...and the rest However, projections are a silly thing, and Ty will undoubtedly trade a lot more this off-season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick 2 Posted January 3, 2003 Ok by me if you feel this way Fantasy, I for one have made many questionable trades in the past, but as long as YOU feel it helps out your team I'm all for it. ~STICK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Topes 0 Posted January 3, 2003 Okay, much of the clutter here is my fault. DrJ, so far we have approval from the following: Chipshot Topes Hoffdaddy Stick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TyCobb 0 Posted January 3, 2003 Originally posted by Topes:His brilliance in the boardroom will certainly make Ty's playoff loss this coming season all the more painful. So true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted January 3, 2003 Originally posted by Topes:Ty has proven that you can trade away all your future drafts, and get them back again. (Something DrJ is prolly jealous of, as well. ) Nah, I'm sure I could have positioned myself well in this draft with some of this spare talent I have. I just can't really pull the trigger on a deal like this for a draft pick anymore. If Ty ends up with Deshaun Foster II, Curtis Enis II, Thomas Jones II, etc, etc out of this pick, it didn't work out for him in the slightest IMO. I just am not willing to risk my young talent like that. Just a philosophical difference I guess... I'll stick to being the waiver king. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby 0 Posted January 3, 2003 Sure..Even tho I am still critisized...Look at the overall stats after the trade and throw out eahc players high game and Horn has way better stats than Burriss.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TyCobb 0 Posted January 4, 2003 Originally posted by fantasyfan13:I will also still have the 1st pick in the draft.And to be honest with you their is only 1 runningback going into this years draft i'm sold on.And with a core group of william green,holt,burress and mcgahee i'd feel pretty good about my chances in this league for years to come. Doh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasyfan13 0 Posted January 4, 2003 well their goes mcgahee.But that doesn't really make this trade any worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TyCobb 0 Posted January 4, 2003 Originally posted by fantasyfan13:well their goes mcgahee.But that doesn't really make this trade any worse. Nah, just yanking your chain a little, fantasyfan. There's still plenty of quality players from which to pick. Mcgahee was just the odds of favorite to be your pick. Do you think you would have done the trade had you known Mcgahee wouldn't be available? Just wondering. [ 01-04-2003: Message edited by: TyCobb ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasyfan13 0 Posted January 5, 2003 Originally posted by TyCobb: Nah, just yanking your chain a little, fantasyfan. There's still plenty of quality players from which to pick. Mcgahee was just the odds of favorite to be your pick. Do you think you would have done the trade had you known Mcgahee wouldn't be available? Just wondering. [ 01-04-2003: Message edited by: TyCobb ] Well i would've put more thought into it.But in the end i probably would've done it.Based on the fact that even though i had the 1st 2 picks their is no guarentee either one will equal squat now.And imo burress in turning into monster.Although i would've been a bit more hesitant in trading gordon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted May 5, 2003 Is Burress worth more than the 1.02 pick in this draft after all has shaken out? I think so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TyCobb 0 Posted May 5, 2003 Not one of my better trades, to be sure. Funniest part is how much flack Fantasyfan took over it, too. [ 05-05-2003: Message edited by: TyCobb ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Topes 0 Posted May 5, 2003 Well, I always figured this pick to be one guy, and now it looks like that one guy will not be available. If that guy is, I still think a good trade. Gordon is not chopped liver. Pinkston, however, does seem to have an unusually high cholesterol content. Hmmm... Good trade, FantasyFan! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
