Nomad99

If she ran for president.....would she munch the carpet they roll out for her?

So it doesn't happen? Hey.....do you have coordinates for that mythical river in Egypt? DeNILE?

WooTang & Heeeeely shure got things a mess here. Hopefully Warren can do a rain dance & fix it....

Did you hear this from Bigfoot & the Loch Ness monster?

What SHOULD pi$$ you off is ANY company that hires on quota rather than best person for the job....but we know that's not the case right Karen?

Not the same concept. I swear you post the opposite just for the sake of douchenozzlery. https://www.google.com/search?q=difference+between+dress+code+and+uniform&oq=&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggBEEUYOzIGCAAQRRg5MgYIARBFGDsyBwgCEAAYgAQyCAgDEAAYFhgeMggIBBAAGBYYHjIICAUQABgWGB4yCAgGEAAYFhgeMggIBxAAGBYYHjIICAgQABgWGB4yCAgJEAAYFhgeMggIChAAGBYYHjIICAsQABgWGB4yCAgMEAAYFhgeMggIDRAAGBYYHjIICA4QABgWGB7SAQkxMTIxM2owajmoAg6wAgHxBcvO5mSxrvwr8QXLzuZksa78Kw&client=ms-android-verizon-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Yeah.....that was a moment

That's right.....you didn't have anything to do with aircraft maneuverability. You had to do with sensors......YET you made an unfounded claim about maneuverability. Thrust- Vectoring is the EXACT REASON your claims of F16 prowess against 5th gen aircraft like the F22 & SU-57 in dogfight are erroneous. There is a reason the F22 is considered "super-manouverable" and the F16 is not. That said, the F16 can carry a wide variety of ordinance for strike packages, deliver said ordinance & then go toe to toe with most aircraft out there in an air to air role. That's a pretty good reputation for an aircraft classified as an Air Superiority Fighter" The F-35 is NOT an Air Superiority Fighter. The F-22 is THE PREEMINENT Air Superiority Fighter.....as of now.

No.....never claimed that. You broadly claimed that the F16 was more maneuverable than 5th gen aircraft. You broadly claimed that 5th gen aircraft wouldn't be favored close in. I simply pointed out 2 glaring exceptions to your incorrect assessment.

That's your quote. The F22 & SU 57 are bothe 5th gen fighters. BOTH of them use thrust vectoring and are FAR more maneuverable than an F16. There is no place in the sky where the F16....even with data-link, would have an advantage over either aircraft, INCLUDING CLOSE IN DOGFIGHTING.

Sensors have nothing to do with maneuverability.......unless they are the type involved with control surfaces. The F35 is a complete different animal than the F22.....complete different mission. It also doesn't use thrust vectoring other than VTOL. I have no doubt that an F16, close in, could hold it's own vs an F35. Against an F22, you would be hard pressed to find someone to take that bet. I'm not saying it can't be done but the odds are not in your favor. It's amazing that the F16, 15 & 18 can still effectively operate in theater as old as they are...even with block upgrades but the closest competition the F22 has at close range is not an American aircraft.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_maneuver#:~:text=Soviet Union,-Research and developments&text=Viktor Pugachev was the first,was quickly named after Pugachev. I think it was actually a Swedish pilot that may have invented it but the Rusky got credited.

I think we should run that through the rumor mill!

This stuff is kind of a side hobby for me & so I'm fairly well informed. I know it's pretty easy to misspeak about stuff(myself included) but it's pretty well know that thrust vectoring aircraft are super maneuverable & run circles around other aircraft at close quarters.....they make the old Russian "Cobra" maneuver look like child's play.

You keep doing you....

Yah.....F22, SU30 SU35, SU57. Raphael & Typhoon pretty maneuverable to but no thrust vectoring. F16 is a very good multi-role aircraft but at a severe disadvantage in a dogfight against a thrust vectoring fighter. There is a reason the F22 isn't sold to ANYONE....it's the total package...stealth, thrust-vectoring, speed, radar & targeting. It will kill you from 80 miles out or from your kitchen counter.

I have no idea where you are getting your info but PLEASE put down the crack pipe An aircraft like the F22 with THRUST VECTORING will destroy an aircraft like the F16........this is not only a KNOWN FACT but pretty common knowledge.

Like the millions of guns & gun owners that don't commit violent felonies but are held accountable and regulated because of a few........this is fun........you get to straw a topic & then i straw another one back at you.....better than pickle ball!!!

How would it be violent? You weren't there, nobody got hurt....just a B&E...

So if a non violent felon breaks into your house....gets caught & arrested....that's immoral?

Why? Because you deem it so? So Jan 6 is righteous because i deem it so? Either you are invested in the law or you are not.

Just a heads up.....this isn't a tranny thread......

Wait a minute......are you saying some people trespassed & interfered with federal business? Sounds like an insurrection to me.....

You must forgive him.....he has become so inebriated suckling the teet of illusion & dystopia that he knows not what he does. Arguing about money spent removing criminals from our society & ignoring money wasted on transgender operas & comic books sent to the same region. It's like glorifying a shopping spree & condemning an upgrade to your home heating system.

To "Take" not "Imprison".....sorry...no points awarded. Strawman