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And rooned Healthcare for the millions upon millions that actually have to pay for it.

You say that like it's a good thing. Also, it would never have come to fruition without John Roberts mischaracterizing the individual mandate as a tax.

You're talking about Trump's negotiating genius. I'm talking about the government shutting down, which I consider a good thing. Let them prove how unnecessary most of this sh!t we pay for actually is. But, since that's the tack you want to take. What about your boy Obummer's negotiating prowess when he shut down the government? Except he was such a vindictive littecunt that he actually spent money shutting down the side of a road so people who had planned and paid for vacations couldn't stop on the side of a road to take pictures of Mt. Rushmore.

I don't care why they all decided to shut down. The end result was a net positive for the people. They should do it more often.

You serious, Clark? Every second the government operates it's wasting money. They should take a few months off every year. We won't miss them.

And we appreciate him for it. Saved us a lot of money that otherwise would've been wasted during that time.

Daytoner is a little over a month away. We sticking with the same setup? Also, are we playing for money this year? Some of us agreed to last year but nothing was ever finalized. Also, if you quit mid-season last year, you're a phag and aren't allowed back unless you kick in double the money. Also, also, I have no authority here.

SCOTS is great live. Always a good time.

Way too many shenanigans to claim everything was on the up-and-up.

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No, it was complete ban on the importation, sale or transfer of so called "assault weapons." Which was any gun with the arbitrary characteristics they deemed to be more deadly. Thankfully, Republicans demanded a sunset clause be included in the bill and since it was determined to be ineffective in combating gun crimes, the law was allowed to sunset. They won't include a sunset clause in the next ban.

Exactly. And they know they can exploit that fact by playing on the fears of the ignorant. I understand why people are more concerned about mass shootings. They fear it could happen to them. Truth be told, the politicians don't care as much about the victims of mass shootings nearly as much as they care about furthering their agenda. And make no mistake, if they could abolish the 2A tomorrow they would, but they can't. So, like everything else the left does, they will try to do it incrementally. And it just so happens they want to start with the one gun most people would use to defend themselves from a tyrannical government that would try to take away that right. What red cities and counties are you referring to with regards to higher violent crime rates than places like Chicago or Detroit? I'm not saying level 1 trauma care as a whole shouldn't be necessary in the inner-city. I'm saying level 1 GSW care shouldn't be necessary. When we have to use techniques learned from the battlefield to save civilian lives as often as we do, it's a problem. That problem being a subculture in our society that doesn't value human life. But again, it isn't the tool that is to blame, it's the culture that has to be addressed.

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I think the narrative is moreso "the left only gets 'outraged' when it's a mass shooting. They never say a word about the 100's of people a day being shot and killed in places like Chicago." There may be worse places than Chicago these days but Chigaco is the go-to because of how long gang violence has been a problem there. Now part of that is pointing the finger at lib run cities and the failure of their policies to bring about the utopian society they claim their policies create. Another part of that is because the left vehemently opposes the 2A and would abolish it if they could. So when they use mass shootings to try and push that agenda it gets met with obstinance from those of us who know that they won't stop with "assault weapons." AR's are just the first step. When that doesn't bring about the change they claim it will, and it won't, there will be further campaigns to ban the next gun or group of guns until the 2A is rendered obsolete. As for level 1 trauma centers, I agree that quicker access to that kind of medical care would go a long way towards saving the lives of a lot of inner-city GSW victims. But the fact that that level of medical treatment is necessary to save lives in inner-city America is the issue.

All good. My point was, if there were white trash gangs roaming Appalachia, shooting each other over real estate that they didn't own, over who had the right to deal drugs there, it would be a thing. The last time two rural white gangs made headlines it was the Hatfield's & McCoy's. The murder rate in inner-city America far outpaces the mass shooting murder rate in this country but one makes headlines and the other doesn't. Because one can be exploited to further a narrative and a political agenda and the other is an inconvenient truth that can't be. Chicago, specifically the West Side, has long been a hotbed of gang violence. Where shooting deaths have outpaced the national average for decades and very little has seemingly been done to curb the violence. So when one nutjob loses it and shoots 20 people, and we get the wall to wall coverage of it, for days on end, accompanied by the requisite call for more "common sense gun laws" & "assault weapons bans", when murders committed with rifles, any kind of rifle, are a drop in the bucket compared to murders committed with any other weapon, including hands and feet, it rings hollow to some of us.

I did. Always to the ad hominems with you fuckwits.

True. We never talk about all those white trash gangs shooting each other up all over Appalachia. It's practically a pandemic that gets absolutely no news coverage.

Statistics are racist.

Sh!t. If this is gonna be that kinda party, I'm gonna stick my d!ck in the mashed potatoes.

I've never put anyone on ignore or reported anyone. It's easy enough to not read or respond to posts I don't want to read or respond to and only phags report people.

Trump wasn't allowed to run any of his businesses while he was POTUS. So he couldn't have accepted the money.

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