Shuttemdown41

That strong breeze you just felt and the "whoosh" sound you just heard was this thread flying right over your head.

I'm up 10 with my Felix vs. his Rex. Come on Cowboys Defense!

He's in my lineup!

The thing about a message board is that freedom of speech reigns pal. You don't get to tell anyone when to stop posting as you've attempted to do on more than one occasion in this thread. I never bragged about being a lawyer, you asked if I was into sales and I indicated what it was that I do. As for "it paining me so bad...", it's quite clear that I understand EXACTLY how it works and you don't. That is reflected in the fact that the NFL did indeed make a statistical change, thereby prompting you to come whining looking for sympathy on a fantasy football message board. I UNDERSTAND it's well within their rights and power to do what they've done. You DON'T. Don't confuse fantasy (they shouldn't because YOU don't want them to) with reality (they already have and can continue to do so). Never mention your sister again? Am I the one who dragged her into this? Didn't think so. As for you going to law school, I think the world would be a SLIGHTLY more illuminated and educated place for it. I'm all in favor! Finally, I unlike you, don't need anyone else's opinion or judgement on the matter. Nothing anyone else says here will change what has already happened or the way the NFL handles the recording of their stats in the future. No insecurities here, I'll leave that to you.

And if I'm TRULY fascinated by the intellect on display?

LOL! Real intellect on this one. I, unlike you, understand how the NFL works in regards to their method of keeping statistics. That you don't, is patently obvious here. YOU'RE saying "you can't go back and reward someone a catch because an official botched a call." The NFL says otherwise. Unless by some tragic set of circumstances you happen to be Roger Goodell (God help us and the league) or someone with the authority to decide what the NFL can and cannot do, what YOU say means as much as this: What baseball allows for is their business. I don't give a rat's rear if your great-grandaddy wrote the constitution! If your sister was a good lawyer, she'd laugh at you during the consultation after hearing you plead your case. The big bad NFL stole a game from under my nose because of how they keep statistics! Boo frickin' hoo. Again, I can make my argument without the need to make personal insults. That you can't tells me all I need to know.

Throw up the blinders and keep ignoring that it was actually a catch. You don't get to point C without passing through A and B first. It's called causality, or more frequently, cause and effect. If that same official who "clearly marks the pass incomplete" had gotten the ruling right initially, there is no need for the Giants to accept the pass interference. Instead, he blew the call and the Giants decided to accept the penalty which would produce THE SAME RESULT as if he had got the call right. In my years of watching football, in EVERY instance in which a team must decide between taking a recorded reception or accepting a pass interference penalty where the outcome of the play will be the same, the team has ALWAYS taken the catch so that the players get credit for it. If you think the "video describes to a T" what you described in your post above without being able to accept and acknowledge that it also proves that it was a COMPLETED CATCH, then you are at the very least guilty of blatant bias (and thus my reference to the blinders). You know you've gotten your tail kicked when you have to stoop to personal insults and jabs in your arguments. I'm used to people trying to deflect attention elsewhere when their argument has as much backbone as a jellyfish. You set yourself up by starting this thread and if nothing else, I'll gladly take out the garbage. You got your teeth kicked in. Enjoy the soup.

Nice try on the explanation of the lockout. Forgive me if I choose to stick with my very detailed understanding of it over your attempt at simplification. As for presenting a better case, I guess you're that guy that thinks he's infallible and smarter than everyone else because looking around this thread, you're out on that limb ON YOUR OWN. Now, just to put you to bed and tuck you in, I present the coup de grace: http://www.youtube.com/user/SuperNzYme?blend=1&ob=5#p/u/0/zc3dTv9aNJ8 Lessons of the day: 1. Never go into a gun fight with a butter knife and 2. Never underestimate the things a Giants fan will put on youtube. Have nice day!

Let me show you how you should have started your sequence of events in an unbiased and factual way: NICKS MAKES CATCH IN BOUNDS Nicks gets pushed out of bounds Official rules it an incomplete pass <- the final call on the field is an incomplete pass. Flag is throw While officials deliberate, ESPN shows the replay. Their comments "-It was definitely a catch" Official turns his mic on Pass interference defense - 23 yard penalty first down Giants accept the penalty Giants receive first down on the 9 yard line. The entire basis of your argument is flawed because of you inability to accept that first declaration as FACT. Also, could you kindly show us the official detailed breakdown of what the leagues says happened since apparently you have a copy or are privy to that information? In case you're not sure what I'm talking about, refer to your line which says "Now the league comes back and says this occurred:"

No, I work in law so contracts aren't exactly foreign to me. Don't think a team like the Giants are in a position to not pay their star wide receiver you say? Did you happen to miss this whole episode called the lockout from March through July? Think that had anything to do with money and teams trying to cut down the players' share? Do it for one player and you're doing it for every player eventually. Not a precedent teams want to set, trust me. Either way, the reasoning behind the correction is as obvious to me as it is apparently lost on you so with that I'll exit stage left from the thread.

They only accepted the penalty because the result of the penalty was the exact same thing as if the CORRECT ruling had been made in the first place. In the absence of that penalty the Giants would have had the opportunity to challenge, the play WOULD have been overturned (it was a clear as day catch) and guess what? Nicks STILL would have gotten credit for the reception and 23 yards. I watched the game and can't for the life of me understand what you're saying.

Sign me up for the cult following of the genius that is Axe Elf!! Now, some help kind sir: 1. Ochocinco or Decker for WR3? 2. A banged up Felix Jones or a demoted Reggie Bush? 3. Pick 2 from Dez, Burleson and Rice please (already have Megatron penciled in at WR1, need WR2 and 3 from this bunch). Guide me to victory oh great one!