Serpent
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Peyton reminds me of Chad Pennington now. Pennington would have to load up all of his throws to get anything on them at all, and would be completely done after 3 games or so of throwing so "hard."
The good news is this game probably got Peyton some trade value, so if you have him, now's the time to sell. This is what they mean by "sell high." It means sell before the obvious prolonged failure.
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"....do we still have Tebow's number?"
These are Tebow and Kyle Orton like passes. At least these receivers should be used to it.
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Dude is 39, it's amazing he even made it to 37. He probably will go down in history in terms of QB numbers at that age.
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Peyton is done. Wish he had retired at the end of last season. Oh well, some people have to humiliate themselves first before they're happy.
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Nobody here talking about the play that kid made on the ball. He absolutely flew to the route and made an all pro play. Not only that, he also made a great play to break up that miracle catch by Kearse. Speaking of which, Seahawks lost game right then and there by taking their sweet time getting up to the line. That second time out they blew was huge.
And how much of an ignorant ass is Collinsworth? He's whining about the play call when he should have been pointing out how Seattle could very well cause a safety, then still get a miracle punt return to set up winning FG. Lol... what a tool.
Time wasn't a factor. When you are at the 1 yard line on 2nd down with 40+ seconds to go and 2 timeouts, you have ample time to just run the ball for 2 downs and still throw it if you need it on 4th down.
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lol seriously, you pass the ball there? You got beast mode and plenty of time!
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The NFL makes it worse by dragging it out.
All they had to do was levy the fine, say $100k, and then be done with it. It's obvious there was a violation. The minimum fine is $25k, and players get hit with more than that. Just set the fine to something higher to show the organization has to follow rules too, and then move on.
Instead they go on this ridiculous witch hunt and drag everything out. Who cares who lowered the pressure? And who needs justifications? When you act like it's a big deal people will also act that way. The NFL sucks at handling these situations.
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Grabbing his crouch on national television and shouldn't be worried about being fined? I can see the NFLs stance on it. Fine him for the color of his cleats? No. Fine people for goal post dunking, celebrating touch downs, ect? No the league has gotten out of hand with that. I'm surprised they haven't started throwing penalties for spiking the ball
They threatened to throw him out of the game if he wore the gold cleats. I've never seen that before. A fine afterwards sure, but to throw someone out? They obviously don't like him, mostly because he does not like speaking to the media. So they will make up punishments as they see fit.
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which team is it you root for ? Another victim of the patriots greatness ?
The Giants.
I've stated it multiple times over the years. Now here's my , open up.
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I just learned that today was the first time Belichick actually admitted or said what they did in "spy gate"
I learned that Patriots fans are the most disgusting and distasteful of all fans. But I've always disliked people from Boston to begin with. That city is a wart in the shithole of America.
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I liked the part where he said we filmed a guy giving who was giving signs in front of 80,000 people!!!!
On way home was listening to ESPN radio and host asked people if they would want their team to win a Super Bowl if it was found they cheated. About half said no they wouldn't. HORSE SHI!T So that made me want to ask the question, when is cheating...cheating ? I'd be willing to bet every team cheats in some form wether it is deflating, over inflating the ball or just adding more stick em on gloves but some form goes on by every team. Maybe like not listing Manning's thigh injury on the injury report.
While waiting to listen to press conference today weei was covering Red Sox event and they asked Joe Kelly what % of pitchers he thinks use some type of "illegal" substance on mound to get better grip? He said 95%
I would have agreed with you, but since I just watched all the Pats fans all over Rodgers, it's awfully hard to respect that claim when Pats fans themselves show they don't actually respect it.
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Imagine what their legacy would be if there was no spy gate or deflate gate; absolutely the best in history. WITH the facts that are known as it stands now? Permanent asterisk. I hope they are denied entry into the HoF because of their repeated cheating.
They probably wouldn't have any championships and who knows how good their regular season record even would be. Even with the cheating those old Niners, Cowboys and Steelers teams have more rings. The Giants are also clearly the better franchise.
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in his own words "over the limit" and "see if refs adjusted" but you know and choose to ignore those facts. Can't help yer selective give o fock kid.
So Pats getting caught under-inflating balls with proof=not a big deal, every team does it.
Rodgers talks about it, with no proof or numbers suddenly=Rodgers is a cheater punish him!
fockers LOL
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Does anyone know when the league starting using independent equipment managers and ball attendants to handle the balls for the Super Bowl? Is this the first year or have they been doing it for a while now? ESPN mentions that the process was established "long before" this new scandal occurred. But does that mean months ago or years ago?
It's always been that way as far as I know.
It was like that for all games but Peyton whined and stamped his feet until the system outside the SB was established.
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The NFC is stronger than the AFC, that's been apparent for awhile and has been the case through most of the league's history. I'm not entirely sure why it works out that way, it just tends to.
The weather will be a lot better as well. Ordinarily Wilson just does not make mistakes. The weather screwed with both QBs, and it won't be a factor for the SB. The Seahawks have the better defense, the better run game, and that's probably enough with a mistake free Wilson. Wilson is traditionally also very strong on 3rd downs.
I think it will be a good game. But Hawks have to be favored.
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Except fact balls were deflated last week
And the fact that most people commenting aren't even Colts fans, although all the defenders are Patriots fans. I'm a Giants fan, the Patriots are our , they're seriously just like a scrub kid brother we kick the out of whenever we feel like it.
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Good Lord. Have any of you played football... ever ?
If u dont think an underinflated ball is easier to throw or "grip" .... you are mistaken... my guess is 90% of people who have played college fb or above would agree. I played TE in college. We would practice with underinflated fbs during snow and rain to build confidence and to increase efficiency in practice...
Dr RB
This is true, and it really makes a difference when weather conditions are bad like they were for that game.
However when conditions are good, I prefer a fully inflated ball because you can throw it faster and further.
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I'm guessing we'll get something new revealed every couple of days or so right up into the SB. This is so manufactured lol.
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good luck in the draft
Oh and enjoy the pro bowl.
Wait, did any giants make it ?
How would I know, I don't watch that game.
I would have put O'Dell Beckham into the Pro Bowl though, I'd be very surprised if he didn't make it.
I don't even care about deflategate, just own up that it happened, it affects things, and there is some sort of punishment for getting caught. You guys need to stop getting so emotional and whining about it, nobody likes a whiner.
BB just handled the best "We will cooperate with the NFL and know nothing about it." Boom, follow the leader, that's how you handle it.
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what is the serverity of this infraction ? Science has proven it had no impact on the game. So let's have an intelligent discussion based on facts. Explain the severity since it has been proven to not have given an advantage.
I'll hang up and listen.
What the hell are you babbling about? Just break out the rule book, what does it say? If the rules are violated, that is a violation, period, by definition. That is called cheating. Doesn't matter if it helps you, it could even hurt you, you still cheated. When people are speeding it's obvious it's safer than driving slower than traffic, but it's still a rules violation and a citation.
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Its a sports thing. Every team in every sports competition will push the limits of what they can get away with to give them an edge to win. The sooner everyone gets over something as trivial as letting a little air out of balls the better. Fine the team and get over it. Honestly tire of this
This is the reason I never cared about PED use either. Everyone uses it, so who gives a crap? The NFL and sports in general refuse to enforce rules or punish cheating, they always only make a show of it. I haven't taken any sports seriously for years, at least since the NBA refs fixing games scandal. It's obvious all sports are like that.
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Someone missed their midol lol
Are you 12 years old?
I mean that seriously. Are you?
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What noone is taking into account is that EVERY NFL team does stuck like push the limits of the air in the balls whether they are under inflated or over inflated. Is it bad that people will try anything to give them an edge in the game? Yea something like that is against the rules. However, that happens in EVERY sport and not just football. "Oh air was let out of the football! This is the most appalling thing I have ever heard of!" Please. Get a life. Fine the team and move on. Theres no news story here
You need to get a life, you've been defending a corporate entity that you root for and trying to pass that off as an objective, rational set of behaviors. You literally spent all day on here responding to every post attacking everyone for suggesting it's a punishable offense for a team to get caught cheating. If it was another team, a person like you would demand the harshest penalties, because you project your own guilt onto others. I've been laughing at your posts, and obviously others have as well, apparently to the point that people decided to actually call you on it.
It takes awhile to annoy people enough for them to actually call you out, because most people really aren't interested in getting involved in emotional outbursts.
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You diminish the impact of this on the game. This goes directly to the integrity of the game itself. This type of behaviour - if not stomped on immediately and severely - will cause every single thing about this game to be questioned.
That's what a breakdown of integrity does. Fans lose trust.
Do you think that the NFL can afford to have fans lose trust? Will this give life to suspicions that refs are being paid off? That players are taking a dive? That they are instructed to hurt other players, and that those things which we previously thought were accidents or coincidences would be thought of differently?
This is much more severe than a minor infraction. This is evidence of a much larger problem, now that one franchise has been caught for a second time cheating.
Now think of the razor's edge that Goodell has been on since this year's travesties. You think he can afford to deal with this less than harshly?
Hell no. This is serious, because it calls into question the nobility and honor of the game.
Goodell won't do , and there hasn't been integrity in this game for a long time. The NFL is run as a business, nobody actually cares who wins and loses, it's just bread and circuses for the masses.
Will the NFL keep losing fans?
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This is the first time I think I've logged in all season. Moreso because I know fantasy playoffs are coming and it's a bit of a habit than anything else. Of course I used to absolutely love this site and not just for football, but for some of the posters. I wonder if everyone is still around, maybe a few are but I suspect a few others dropped out like me.
There are quite a few problems.
First too many games. Many of us complained about Thursday games. That was a dumb idea all around and created havoc for fantasy. In fact, I wouldn't be opposed to removing Monday night games too, they were a pain and the games usually suck and have sucked for years. I'd rather use Monday to process results and figure out waiver moves, which I'd prefer to get in on Monday and have fire off on Tuesday. That gives more time during the week to make other moves.
Second too many penalties.
Third, waaaaay too many commercials. And the commercials are usually very irritating.
Fourth I got really sick of the pink every year for an entire month. Especially since I know that money doesn't even get donated to anything productive, and most of it goes to the NFL or lines the pocket of drug companies. Even if it didn't, most of us aren't rolling in money and we resent being told someone else deserves our hard earned money more than we do. I mean you, I've never gotten a handout and even if I needed one it was never offered. I was told just to suffer and deal with it. This one is on society as a whole, you can't have that attitude both ways.
Fifth, the social issues and pandering, for a variety of issues. This isn't a platform where I want to hear about nor care about what issues someone things is important or their diversity goals. I just wanted football, and I wanted it delivered smoothly and efficiently with the minimum of extra annoyance. The NFL failed miserably on that, and has been failing even more in recent years.
Sixth, it's almost 2017, how are you not providing high quality official streams? Who the wants to watch something on cable? Nobody uses a regular TV anymore. Get your dumb broadcast partners to start streaming things, with better tools, and without requiring logins or other nonsense. If your goal is to make money off of advertisements, this is a no-brainer anyway.
Seventh, restricting games with archaic blackout rules is idiotic. Again, almost 2017, with all our entertainment options, who is going to bother with that nonsense?
Eight, stop taking your audience for granted. Yes maybe it was possible to brainwash people, especially young men, into thinking they NEEDED to watch sports, but if that still exists it's certainly not going to be just the NFL. People have choices, but most people also aren't going to be subject to that anymore. Nobody wants to hang out with the annoying nerds that babble stuff about being a man means you need to watch sports, drink beer, fart and act like a thirsty loser ever time a woman is on screen. Stop insulting everyone and pretending that is how men think and act, especially if you expect a strong male viewerbase.
Ninth, stop trying to expand the game worldwide. Congratulations, all those foreign games everyone hated and told you they hated has caught up to you. Now your core audience is alienated, hates your guts, and if anything I'm more interested in the foreign sports now, like soccer, which amazingly doesn't have many of the problems the NFL has. The second that becomes popular in the US the NFL is done for, it's just a better sport all around when the NFL is busy shooting itself in the foot all the time.
Tenth, and this connects to some of the other stuff, the NFL lying about safety was a bad look. Everyone knows about concussions and brain damage, and how most of the penalties and fines are complete bullshit when the NFL doesn't even try to protect players a lot of the time and denies what injured them.
And finally, Roger Goodell is a . There is only so long anyone can tolerate that imbecile. He was going to run the sport into the ground, and while it takes awhile to run such a big ship in the ground, hey it looks like he managed to steer it towards shore. It was obvious but the NFL made money in spite of him, rather than getting rid of him they rewarded him more. Dumb.
I don't know that I watched more than parts of a couple of games at most this year. I don't know when I'd watch again. The only people I know that still watch are either hardcore fans and/or people with drinking and gambling problems.