BeenHereBefore

Are you in your later 80's ?

The name does say it all lol.

You should take a date and bet that would really impress her that you have great connections. Maybe the janitor would let you walk on the field.

Yes I believe like you do that Oswald was what he said just a patsy and never killed Kennedy or Tibbit, I believe he was Involved with the CIA and FBI as well but don't get why that would not make the driver William Greer not involved. Half the SS were in on it in Dallas and half was not. The driver was the key and maybe last resort to make sure the president didn't leave Dallas alive. Some of the SS was partying to the am hours of the morning at the hotel bar and guessing these were the probably the ones in on it. The driver William Greer broke the car around the time of the shots doing the opposite what he was trained. The SS was in a huge fight with the Parkland doctors about who was getting Kennedy's body that they drew their guns. Later the Driver and Roy Killerman the same ones that drove Kennedy through the parade takes the body to the airport. After that we have the missing brain. To pull this of they had to be involved and were two key components to make it work. Some of SS not involved I would say Clint Hill that tried to help Jackie and the one at the airport that put his hands up in the air in a wtf gesture when told not to guard next to the car like he was normally trained to do. Also look at famous successful assassination in history, the victim is usually killed at close range and better percent that they are successful. mob hits as well are mostly close up.

I seen probably about 6 different ones of the Zapruder film over the years. There is some that are doctored adding more blood. Another the flips for a second of the other side of the street.another that goes blank for a frame or two at a key point of the shooting.

It's hard to say for sure what she was doing, some say it was that and some say she was trying to escape for her own safety. Watching it I can make a argument for both. I heard that she thought it was a conspiracy but kept it to herself as well.

Wow Jerry you really put the Hex on the Diamondbacks going to that game.

Probably been hooked on it since the Rick Springfield years.

Here is the one lady who took one.

Like I said I seen so many docs on it over the years I can't remember which ones. Photos of it might be in one of my books on it and haven't read them since the 90's. Will have to check them tomorrow and it might be in the Mortal Error one I have. Here is a clip that shows video from the other side opposite street of the Zapruder about 2;45 in.

Oh wow and ones I tried had them blocked.

I remember the good ole days when you could pull videos and music off of YT.

I seen them in various ones over the years and can't remember which ones, The Men That Killed Kennedy maybe one of them but can't remember for sure. They exist and am sure others seen them, the ones I seen you couldn't see the drivers gun in them and were a few seconds before the fatal shot. As for your second question Films, cameras were confiscated by the FBI right after the shooting and even the Zapruder film was taken by the FBI. Witness told they was wrong about what they saw and heard. not to mention many unexplained deaths of witnesses.

Agreed on the LHO but as from the photo's from the otherside of the street they are real and seen them in documentaries and in books on the subject but the film I haven't ,heard there is one though. I agree but don't think the real truth will ever come out but we got a pretty good idea who was involved and how it went down.

I heard this theory in the later 90's and not sure I believe it but wouldn't roll it out either. I don't think there is much evidence supporting it though. As someone that shot guns that would be kinda a tough angle and quick shot but not impossible.

No so we agree on JB, as for the driver in the J.F.K. I see what I see and you see what you see and will let it go at that. I heard there is another film that the FBI has from the other side of the street that shows the driver shooting him even better but I can't prove that. There is definitely photos taken from the other side.

That is what ones said to try to discredit the theory, I can even see the gun recoil after the fatal blow, you can see the sun reflect off of it as well when he tries to put it away. Anyways me and you think different and aren't you the one that believes Jon Benet wasn't a inside job ? We will just have to disagree.

Haha only 2 for me now but have had 4 total and may go back to Bet Rivers at some point and like that one.

I don't believe whatever Jackie said after the assassination was made public and don't believe also that she was questioned in the WC. So whatever she said remains a mystery. Driver fired the fatal shot. There was other shots fired elsewhere before that like the one that hit Kennedy in the back.

Cool and not sure I want to open another betting account at the moment lol.

My point is they are going to remain silent in fear for their lives and families.

Okay thanks got ya. May try one tomorrow.

Not in the book I mentioned but it does mention about Garrison possibly being homosexual. Said the allegations was mostly to discredit him but who knows for sure.

Jackie and Nellie was probably in fear for their own lives and children's afterwards. Jackie also tried to climb out of the car right after the fatal shot.

I posted this last night and anyone on here that liked the movie J.F.K checkout the book Farewell to Justice by Joan Mellen. Goes into a lot more detail about Jim Garrison and Clay Shaw, Oswald, David Ferry, Guy Banister and the other characters from J.F.K.