BuckSwope

Correct, I am not willing to accept thoughts "off the top of your head" that were a copy and paste of other's thoughts and a link to a pro-Trump site listing general Trump accomplishments as proof any of that had to do with blacks doing better under GOP policies. As far as the bolded, I agree - it hurts the poor the most. What I am saying is that I disagree that the poor do better under GOP policies, I think they always get hurt the most and continue to fall behind no matter who is in charge.

That reads like a headline from The Onion.

I never said the AAs are not able to do stuff. You misunderstood that post and I explained further. Infrastructure = schools/jobs/opportunities. And this is where I part from the right on this issue, because the bolded is what I encounter as a theme from the right as a whole. (Can I use the "you all" here and not get you riled up?). When I read this position, to me you are saying that you think if you swapped AAs with any other group, be it poor whites, Ethiopians, whatever you would get a different outcome. Am I getting that wrong? There is something about "their" culture that is making it so they can't succeed where others can. Now can you explain to me how that stance isn't bigoted towards AAs? Like I posed above you seem to be telling me that if you dropped the Nigerians here in the hood in the 70s you'd get the same outcome. That if you flipped skin color in the inner city you'd expect a different outcome from the white kids. Me? I think the AAs issues are largely poverty/education/jobs. You see the exact same thing elsewhere where there is poverty, drugs, and jobs leaving - just with different music. You see divorce rates, lack of fathers, broken homes, welfare queens - all the sh1t you guys complain about the AAs. A big thing that exacerbates the issue for the AA community is population density. All completely predictable and in line with stats. I would prefer policies that help the actual poor and uneducated of the country, which I believe is one of the best ways to help the AA community. IMO, the right tells them to fix it themselves while taking a bigoted stance on AAs and the left f0cks it up by incorrectly making it about skin color and leaving other races in poverty behind - taking a racist position. Again, IMO neither side cares about the poor/uneducated which unfortunately is a large portion of the AA community - they just each posture and talk while the wealth and education gap increases.

Yes, "you people" because you just specifically brought up Nigerian immigrants as an example. Yes, we agree on all that in the second except for the fixable solutions. I would end the war on drugs and focus on ways to improve the infrastructure in poor communities. IMO their "culture" will come around, and blaming them and the left for everything is a great way for fock all to get done.

I was using the stats the site RLLD was using, which stated as of Jan 2021. Why wouldn't we look at those stats if they are talking about them? See, I don't think either side gives a sh1t about AAs, and said as much. Of course covid hit them hard, the pandemic hit the poor harder like just about everything else. I am just trying to understand RLLD's position and where he is saying the black community was boosted under Trump and the right is good for them. To me, it looked like the stuff he was posting pointed to the middle class and businesses getting a boost, which mostly is not the black community. When looking at most stats, I would have expected them to be down - trending with poverty stats.

What else are they going to say on sites like those? That doesn't make it real, which is why I keep asking you. For example, I was curious so I looked at unemployment rates 2019 vs. 2020 by race. 6.1 vs. 11.4 in 2020 for blacks/AA. The site you linked was talking as of January 2021. So yeah, a line like The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century sounds great, but again I ask: if the stat I listed is true, did this economy and policies really help the black community? What other stats should we look at? And let's be real - that sentence could still be true if it reached 3.5% for 1 day and was 20% every day for the other 4 years.

I am also saying that there were policies and factors that created those communities and kept them there. Then that changed and when it did is when the African immigrants came in. Because of those changing policies and attitudes, yes - they were able to live in different communities. So on average they had a higher starting point in this country because of the education and $ levels need to immigrate here and they also had different (better) schools and neighborhoods. Of course it's about education/wealth/neighborhoods/schools. You people are the ones that trot them out as an example and basically saying why can't the AAs do that with the same success?? To me it's common sense - they avoided a large portion of the truly racist crap by moving after the Civil Rights era, and they had a different base starting point. What you and others seem to be telling me is that you would expect the same outcome if those millions of Nigerians immigrated in 1900. That there is just something wrong and broken about the AA community that keeps them from getting ahead.

It's not complex, I am just asking for specifics and proof. I scanned that list, and there were some great things on there but this discussion started by you saying those things were helping the black community. I saw a lot of stuff on there about the middle class and small businesses, but when the majority of them aren't in the middle class, how is that helping them? I asked about the jobs in the Trump list - how many of those jobs were in the black community?

I am saying that Nigerian immigrant didn't move into the same troubled communities that the AAs were in. The examples that we agree on are success stories of African immigrants, the facts you all seem to love to ignore is that they largely moved here from the 1970s on so the attitudes were shifting, they lived in different communities, and because of the cost of immigration they on average had more education and wealth. It shouldn't surprise anybody that they or their kids succeeded vs the AA community.

Lol. Come on.

Still doesn't give me GOP policies that caused those things listed. It also doesn't break down by race, so for example #1. 7m new jobs is awesome - where were they and who got hired for those jobs?

You are better than that. That's promises and political speak, I'd guess you could find a similar "plan" on a Democrat's campaign page. Also, I've been told around here that all discrimination is bad, how is the GOP going to do 2, 4, and 6 without race being part of the equation?

Just curious, you talking about the light skinned races or the ones that largely came after our civil rights struggle and are able to live in different areas and communities?

What are the specific policies the GOP is offering that community? I don't think either side in Washington gives two craps about the poor and uneducated in our country.

Honestly, how much time a day do you spend on social media?

Probably using it to keep that hair looking great.

Ah, this dumb go-to. The fact is, you couldn't produce a single post of mine to back up your statement here, yet this board is exhibit A to my point. You even had to trot out the "racist" label. Right of the lefty playback.

They will figure out soon enough how much y'all detest them.

Must be another violent tranny.

That all sounds awesome- glad you are there and participating. I'm just surprised whenever I see troops here, and I am in rural country. I'd figure it's more of an uphill climb getting kids remotely interested in a city setting. I love to read examples of those relationships you are talking of.

The Boy Scouts a big thing in bigger cities?

No doubt. Eternal not caring about kids south of the border getting caught by traffickers, wanting to lock up all trannies while constantly posting about glory holes. He was mildly normal at FBGs, I guess this place brings the creep out of some people. HT wishing rape and murder on people's kids and poking around on kid's social media. Focking gross people around here.

Exactly, like I said above- fight racism with racism like the lefties.

Yeah, all white kids. So, racist- right?

Well, he admittedly follows minors on social media, so....