BuckSwope

The best thing of all is this their proof is dumb sh1t random libs do that they see on their SM. It's usually nothing the "libs" on these boards think or do. Moms for Liberty are just another wacky religious group evidently that contains hypocrites. Shocking.

Wtf says that? More like it's funny when people who present themselves as holier than thou turn out to be as freaky as anybody else.

You are alt-right in the same way everybody else is a bootlicking pedo libtard. When all the posts I see from people like you and jon take that libtard/pedo stance it's a wee bit hard to believe that you have any agreement on the left about any issue. What are you if you aren't firmly in camp red now?

Ah, fight racism with racism like the lefties! Great plan jon.

Why do you want Gender Queer in all classrooms??!! Answer him now!

Sound of Freedom

Nope, slippery slope with that dark gray back towards the racism. Plus, I'm sure there is an undead American somewhere who will be offended by all the grey face going on.

Fock it, best to just cancel all sports!

To be equal, make sure white is on the list too.

Just wait next up is a call to ban red, brown, black, or yellow for team colors so there is no chance this insanely racist activity can continue.

Hmm. Sounds like something a pedo would say.

Yep, again agree. Here specifically I just thought it was funny people getting so worked up over Disney and content of movies/shows. I agree fully that it's more about the bolded, and I said as much - just be honest and say that (not you, in general) and admit it's probably an inconsistent and hypocritical position.

Sure, and yet again I have no issue with what you wrote and agree. BUT, my point still stands that "woke" is now right along with words like racist or pedo in that it's used so much and for so much nonsense it doesn't mean much anymore. Somebody telling me they are against woke doesn't mean a damn thing anymore when I've seen people seen it used for everything from CRT to 5 sec clips of cross dressers to pushing gender in schools to casting a female Jedi. That's where I am coming from when I think it's funny that the "go woke, go broke" crowd doesn't seem to be able to answer specifically what is in the Disney movies/shows they object to OR why when they do it doesn't apply to other companies that have movies like that. Hense my opinion that in this case its more to do with Disney's general attitude towards the right and DeSantis than anything specifically about woke ideals in their products.

I see 2 camps. You seem to be mostly OK with the woke, as long as it doesn't tank your investment. Most of what I see is a strong push against anything perceived as woke.

I hear you, but you also understand that your position is different than a lot of peoples on the topic, right?

Very fair. I guess I don't consume enough Disney content (and I don't believe many in here do either, which is why I never seem to get specific answers as to how the movies are overly woke now) to agree if they are being militant about woke in their movies and shows. I stopped watching years ago because it's mostly the same rehashed princess and superhero sh1t over and over. Like I said, I have no problems with people bailing because they think woke is being shoved down their throats, just allow me to laugh at them a bit if they can't tell me how that is occuring or if their example is a woman starring in a Star Wars movie. We agree that normal people would object to that, but we probably won't agree on where that line is, and that's ok. Mostly this all just started because I thought a movie costing $330 to make was ridiculous, and no wonder they are struggling to profit from them.

I read, and understood what they said. I get all that and largely agree with you. However, in your post above you seem to be more willing than some around here to let a little bit of the woke go as long as it was still keeping your investment a solid one. I find your stance to be a rational one. What I often don't find rational is where people's line in the sand is as far as when they react, and how it's often not able to be applied across the board. Way too often people are upset about something they can't be bothered watching/reading, or can't explain to me how it's too "woke". JMO, but I think a large part of the reaction to Disney is them going after DeSantis and the right, and less about the actual content of the movies.

I don't disagree with any of that. 100% - stop watching and investing if you don't like what they are doing. My main points were merely that there reasons for their lack of success that might not only be because of woke, and that box office #s aren't as straight forward as people seem to be making them.

0 clue why it would be wrong to disagree with that or to stop watching and buying it if it goes too far for you. At some point they made the decision that it's either what they truly believe and want to push vs what they calculated their audience wanted. Disney movies have mostly been garbage for decades, and I'm glad my daughter doesn't give two craps about it for the most part. About all we watch is nature docs (I mean climate change messaging ) and Pixar movies.

It's interesting, but box office numbers have always been a bit of a shell game and unpredictable. It gets to the point where they get fudged so much they don't mean a ton. Disney is a little more like Netflix in that they are making content for their service now. Just like NF spends stupid money on movies and actors because it's about keeping subscriptions not ticket sales, Disney is now at least 1/2 that too. They probably don't care quite as much about ballooning costs and ticket sales since they know it all goes right to their steaming service as well.

Strong disagree here.

Do I just remove it, or does the Geek Club demand a written apology for my cultural appropriation?

I get how costs can get out of hand, my point was more it seems to be a big issue with them in particular. Taking the woke and diversity sequels out of the equation, you are not going to consistently make any money if damn near all your movies cost a ton of money. They look like dog sh1t on top of it. It just seems they have terrible leadership in this dept OR they are hiding money in the production costs somewhere. 0 clue how Little Mermaid costs 2x what Dune did.

Seriously sounding like a neutered lefty here. Wtf do you need an apology for?

Willie O'Keefe there, too?