BuckSwope

And who is digby now? I still have no clue who is who around here with the aliases and don't know the matching handles on FBGs although I have good guesses on a few.

GTFO. that either has to have a report story or the place was moderated differently then. I have seen worse on a daily basis since coming here.

Lol. I've been wondering the same thing. Wtf gets banned here, and for what reason?

I'm honest most of the time. Sorry I thought suggestions of it being hotter throughout the Earth's history a little funny.

Appreciate the response, which again to the bolded - how can anybody be surprised when largely libs gravitate to teaching and education? We largely just differ that it's a purposeful insidious pushing of agenda, as in they are sitting around twirling their mustaches and thinking of ways to turn your kids into lbgtq lefties. That is how your posts come off to me, where I think it makes sense they have a liberal bias and lens to their teaching because, well - they are largely liberal as we said. So we different with the insidious intent and also that what you said I largely agre with, but I also apply that to the right where you don't. You would have to try real hard to convince me that R billionaires aren't all about theirs, their money and power, and keeping that money and power. Come on, man. I view politics as the 1% vs the rest of us, and I truly don't understand how people believe in this this R vs. D, good vs. bad bullsh1t.

Earth was hotter 100s of millions of years ago when Pangea was at the equator - proof we aren't influencing Earth's temperature because it was hotter back then!!

So we've moved largely out of the area of school and administration to higher up. Gotcha. Could you please be more specific what you exactly think the Dept of Education and Union leaders are pushing. For you, is this just a general liberal ideology, or are you accusing them of 100% knowing what is in a book like Gender Queer (just using the most obvious example), and allowing it anyway? and for what purpose? I am really trying to understand your starting point here besides what you said about thinking all liberals are liars and worse than what - murders, was it? We both agree things like Gender Queer shouldn't be in school, that's a good start. We are just very far apart on our base outlook on solutions and blame/motivations. I see more like what you posted about the teachers/admin - largely it's people not paying attention, getting info off recommended sites, etc. I find it hard to believe that all this happened just under D controlled Dept of Education leadership. I don't think the answer is country or state wide mandates, so yes - I still think Fl is being too extreme with it's solutions. But again, we aren't going to see eye to eye on that because of our starting points and outlooks.

Probably can also dismiss people who openly admit they don't care about the child trafficking south of the border as well.

To be fair he did say they need to "see" the movie, didn't say they need to pay for it like an adult.

Which I have not said a word about what's in it. Sure, and you also were dumb enough to suggest that "America needs to see this movie", why exactly you don't seem to be able to explain since even you said it wasn't that well made of a movie. Evidently not "libs" around these parts, so I guess just non-paying righties need to see the movie? Also, a good way to encourage more of these movies you seem to think "America needs to see" to be made is to actually support those movies and pay for them. But again, I guess it's not THAT important of a movie or messsage.

Correct, as is caring about child trafficking and not going to see a fictional movie about the topic. Just find it funny that you are pimping something that you can't be bothered to contribute to. America needs to watch this movie because it's so important (but don't bother paying for it, it's not THAT important). Virtue likes for all and good feels. Lol

I personally have 0 issues with the movie or who did it. I don't watch much in the theater, but watch a ton at home. My personal habits or thoughts haven't changed- I will catch it when it streams. I UNDERSTAND people choosing to avoid it based on who is in it and behind it, and I never put much stock into "based on true events" because most I have seen take big liberties for plot movement and entertainment. To me the biggest concern is the pet charity and reports I've seen of it being wasteful as many are. Since it's being advertised at the end and asking for donations, that's MY biggest concern. But that's concern is quelled by people like you who just pretend it's so important but can't be bothered to fork over a few bucks.

A cause SO important he can't spare a few bucks to help the people out by buying a ticket to their movie?

I was going to call that out too, assuming he meant he didn't pay for it. I haven't seen it pop up to rent yet, but could be wrong.

That doesn't require watching a movie to learn those facts, and "based on" is usually full of liberties with the story that is unnecessary. Read an article or book. I'll watch it like most things when it comes out streaming, I just think the hyperbole on both sides is funny. 0 chance the same people watch a movie about child trafficking made by Spike Lee, or thought a movie based on true story like Selma was something America should watch. It's a movie.

Most of the "outrage" and dialogue around the movie have nothing to do with the content of the movie itself, but you know that. I can't speak for others, but my question to you is why you are suggesting America "needs" to watch a fictional movie that you admit is not that well made. That's what doesn't make sense to me, and I apply that to all "based on true events" movies.

Honestly, if you actually believe that about schools, administration, and teachers - why are you allowing your kids in the schools? You think teachers are lying lefty groomers and you send your kids there, weird. I'd guess one or the other is not true.

I'm not clicking on videos. If you have a point use your words and make it. At no point did I say I think anything should be allowed in school or that some books shouldn't be in a school library. Agreeing on that doesn't also require one to hold beliefs like TB does or to agree with the solutions. I know it's hard to understand around here, but people who don't think teachers are a cabal of lying liberals pushing lbgtq agenda down kids' throats to agree Gender Queer shouldn't be in the school library.

Got called out, can't have a lefty be right, so had to change up the pattern?

I have the feeling like the rest, I agree with you to a point, but not the extreme maybe you (but definitely others) are taking it to. Just focusing on this example of books in school libraries, if you mean it like they lean to looking for books and materials by and for lgbtq people, I agree. If you mean people are specifically choosing those books, knowing exactly what is in them, in order to push sex and porno on kids - I think you've largely lost your mind. To me, it's largely negligence on the part of all involved and it involves simple solutions. I don't have the expectation that the librarians and board members know 100% what is in a book before they buy it. What I'd guess is more likely is they use a 'recommended' list to get books, they use guidelines, things like that. I agree something is going wrong and needs to be fixed on that front if books like Gender Queer are getting through. Solutions I think are rational are things like age restrictions, having a group review the standards for books, things like that. I am not saying that nothing is 'wrong' in the schools, I am saying I don't take the reasons and solutions to the extreme that I feel the right is currently taking it. I don't know what you righties expect, frankly. The first bolded part is true, but that is also largely because liberals gravitate to careers like this. It leans liberal and female, especially in the lower levels of education. That's a choice people make, and maybe just take a look at the posts around here about teachers - it's a laughable career for creepy pedo losers. Cool, but then people like you and others on this board actually seem surprised and angry when you look around and see a bunch of liberals in teaching and administration positions at your kids' schools. You scratch your heads and can't seem to figure out why things like crt would be likely to trickle into the classroom. Maybe you mean differently, but when you post stuff like the 2nd bolded, to me you are assigning intention behind introducing their politics into the classroom, again I don't take it to that extreme. We disagree about the % you listed in the last part, but that is different experiences - for me it's probably 80%+ who fall into that second category and just want to teach their class.

In the process, they are stopping it for both though. There are ways to stop care for kids while allowing it for consenting adults, when you don't do that you are going too far, IMO. I guess I am a little bit. I don't think we should have the threshold that parents and the school board should have to discuss every book in the library. We have a system where we hire a librarian, give them guidelines, and raise concerns when need be. And again, the solution is removal - not talking about age restrictions or anything. For the majority of the examples I've seen that's also going too far, again IMO. You seem to buy into that notion that's it's pushing some sort of purposeful ideology on the part of the school and librarian. I know teachers and librarians, and find that a bit laughable, so maybe we don't agree on things as much as I said above.

Why does their reason care if the actions go too far? That's what I am talking about with looking at actions not words if you tell me that you are trying to stop care for minors, but your action is to close the whole clinic down that also care for adults - I will believe the action over the words. No, I don't remember the discussion about what books are in the libraries. I'm not sure why that justifies the action of removing them, not discussing age restrictions like you suggested. Seems like we agree on the most part, but just don't see eye to eye on the last part. I see both sides basically the same, and both pretty bad.

Is that Prison Mike on the left?

Correct and they would lose a ton of money as well. 0 incentive to allow long term fixes to these issues.

Abortion bans, so they don't want situational or a limit like the public. Closing down clinics and banning trans care. I never rarely see discussions about age restrictions on books, it's remove them from a library. Both sides get a bit authoritarian. Most of the time the left is too lax with the restrictions, and for my liking the right goes too far the other way.