BuckSwope

I would never blame a gun owner instead of the hoodlum criminal.

Stolen from a "responsible" gun owner?

Unsurprisingly it's skewed to blame the libs as usual. As if there is no violence or threats on the right on politicians or during protests. How about at abortion clinics? Then maybe just take an honest look at what most people would also include in there - violent crimes, domestic abuse, etc. and I highly doubt there is a strong correlation between how one votes and how violent they are. It's just nonsense finger pointing for the most part that is basically only about "the summer of love".

Their sources are X videos, Tucker Carlson, and Fox. That's why they never reply to that request.

I tried. 3 times and still can't answer a question, just accusing me of bs.

Ok, we disagree about that. That a bit of twisting to get to that point. Now, care to address any of my other questions to you, or should I do the same to you and just not take your posts literally or seriously?

I mean, sometimes there is a direct link to their politics and violence. My point was that if you look at mass shooters in general, none of this applies because it's mostly inner city and domestic shootings widely applied. School/mall/church shooters take on a much different profile, and when you look at those specifically there is no common link like D/R, trans, etc.. The common traits are what I talked about and where we should start if we want to address it.

Yes, I can read posts. Are you telling me around here the "trannies are violent" trope isn't a main talking point? You have a very good talent of not answering questions or addressing any point that I actually have made or believe. Yes, statistically they are more likely to be abused and subjected to violence than many groups we could talk about. No, using an incorrect pronoun or words isn't "violence". That is stupid and not my position. I never said anything about chemical castration or the like. Again, care to answer my questions about how you think I am placating them or what truths I am avoiding?

It would make sense. Common traits for these types of shooters: domestic abuse, suicidal, attachment to the location, recent mental health crisis, access to guns. Things that aren't a common connection but people obsess about anyway: vote R or D, trans, what religion they are, etc.

The trope I was speaking of was the popular one around here that trannies are violent people. Feel free to explain what you think my "maneuver" was on my part in posting that, or what truth you think I am avoiding. Of course you have the right to empathize with people, but my opinion was that most I see on one side of the debate don't empathize with them. I thought you could parse out that while I replied to you I was also talking in generalities and describing the board in general. The reason I stated that is because IMO you can't really empathize with people if you don't know basic information, stats about them, or listen to them. Again, I point to basic stuff like the trope I described above which goes against stats on mental illness and other posts I've seen around here. You can answer if that directly applies to you or not. Not sure what you mean with the last part, so I don't know if it's true or not. What do you imagine I'd be doing where you'd think I was placating them and I can answer - saying they are a woman if they were born a man? allowing them in sports? using names and pronouns? What? I've encountered people on all ends of that spectrum, so again you can clarify your specific thoughts if you want.

Probably should lock them all up to be safe.

See, even tim does it to a point. Statistically, people who do mass shootings aren't mentally ill. Even the ones that do school/mall types, mental illness isn't a top common trait, and when it is - it is a variety of illnesses. You see anxiety, ADHD, depression, etc.. Anyway, IMO the problem now is there is such a deep rot as far as trust in institutions and people behind them, that I don't think people can get behind a solution. Example - I think it's troubling that there is a lack of counseling at schools. When there is one, they are often shared between schools. To me, that would be a common sense good thing we could look into improving, especially when people constantly admit that mental health is a big issue in the country. When I bring that up, it's usually met with stuff like: we can't teach reading, but we need a counselor in each school?? An assumption that the counselor is going to push the lbgtq agenda and that's what got us here, things like that. We have a lack of coverage on insurance, insane wait times for an actual appoint, etc. When you look at the overall policies and tone of the country, mental health is not a top priority. It's just an excuse we have to blame things on and not fix it seems.

Yeah, I call bs on this, especially in context of this board. Sorry, you can't say it's about "mental health" when you treat them and talk about them differently than other people who struggle with issues of mental health. You can't complain about lack of empathy and inability to help them when you don't know basic stats, offer any solutions on how to address mental health, and go along with the trope that they are violent as a people. I see the posts around here and think it's 100% about trans people and a dislike of them, or at the very least a hatred for the people who support them 100%. I see it as just another group of people the tribes are happy to argue about, take too extreme of positions on, and ultimately don't end up helping them in the long run.

They should go on a double date with HT and Eternal!

Fair point. Blackout rules and all- If I was a Brewer fan I wouldn't bother buying the service. It's worth it imo just to watch the team I want to.

I don't even try to watch most of them. I'm happy for the cost having a game or two on a week. I'm old, so I tend to watch Mariner east coast games so I am not up all night watching the things, being in central time zone. NBA is split. I used to love NHL the most, but never seemed to have anything that showed that consistently in the last 10-15 years.

Fan of a team <> being on the team or part of the team.

Of course they would say that - you are spending a ton of money and they want you to continue doing so. The main way to do that is to tell you that and make you feel like part of the experience.

It's much better when it's all in one spot. It was predictable it would become a cluster fock when you saw the streaming services break off and keep their products to themselves (first shows and movies). Once Peacock and others popped up, the writing was on the wall that you might need a service for the cbs games, a service for the Fox ones, etc.. I don't watch a ton of sports anymore - are there any major sports now that you don't have to have multiple streaming services and play the witch hunt game you speak of trying to find the game you want? I still pay for MLB to watch Mariners games, but don't watch much besides that.

I hear you on RZ, but had the opposite reaction, and it was a reason I just stopped watching. I figured if the games got so dull to the point where I had to spend extra money to get the Cliffs Notes for the games - F that. I have Paramount+ anyway (a paid subscription mind you), so I turned on the game last night for a little bit. I had it on for about 15mins, and the bolded was 100% what I saw. Plus I still had to watch all the ads even though it's a paid sub. Hard pass.

It is a horrible, slow product to watch with all the ads, time in between actual sport being played, and stopping the clock so much. . I guess if you love a barrage of ads and terrible commentary you are in luck. Or constantly seeing what T.Swift is up to!

So dumb. Do they hand ourlt participation trophies now too?

Sure, most also say things like it was a selfie fest and not a big deal. I've read many of those posts around here. I guess it's similar to when I talk to people and they can admit they also think it's the 1% vs. the rest of us, but then turn around and start blaming Rs or Ds for everything. Tribal b.s. takes over too much is my point, I guess.

Honestly, what else to the Dems have to run on in 2024? I would think the main point to hammer would be him being responsible for overturning RvW. Probably spin as though Missouri and Texas are what's coming from the right and that's how most of them REALLY feel. True or not, that's the political strategy. Otherwise, what? Try to pin the border on the Rs after focking it up for 4 years? We see them struggling with the youth vote over Isreal/Gaza. It's hard to pimp up the economy, even though there are some positive stats to look at, when people are still feeling it in their accounts and shopping for basic goods. IMO they are losing the 'woke' battle with anybody not hard left. It really feels like the abortion issue is their one main winning point at the polls. I guess good for them it's one that mobilizes a ton of people.

What exactly was not true about my post? Both sides don't do what - violence, deny what their side is doing, display similar traits from the extremes? I disagree that it's "exponentially worse" and that only the right get prosecuted. You are being a little hyperbolic there. If you are talking about damages to property, etc. as far as the 'summer of love" vs. 1/6 goes, then I will agree. But that is not what I am talking about. I get it, you are frustrated by the coverage of the two, especially in MSM. I agree - it's nonsense. My point is more that most around here equate what they see in MSM to = the sentiment of people "on the left". I was on that woke ass libby board known as FBGs, and I can't remember any not condemning the looting and violence. On the flip side, here there is the running theme that 1/6 wasn't a big deal, and it was a selfie-fest. You know, ignoring violence towards cops, destruction, death, etc. This isn't based on something like I read that on Fox so I think the righties here believe it - just read their posts and their own words. That was the point I was trying to make.