Johnny Lawrence

I don't understand why everyone doesn't get this. I lean conservative but find it abhorrent how flippantly the MAGA crowd looks at this... Cheering on losing our rights and liberties just to own the libs. its just weird.

I would argue Retribution is no way to govern.

not an aliis , just me. pretty new to this place...i lurk alot, but seldom post, do some over at FBG forums.

I wasn't a fan of it then and I'm not a fan of it now. It's pretty sad that we are holding our late night talk show hacks and cable TV talking heads to a higher standard then we do our leaders. Fundamental rights being oppressed from either side of the aisle should scare the hell out of us... yet we cheer and jeer along party lines as blindly as lemmings running towards the cliff. We laugh and point at the "other side" anytime their side gets a hole, not realizing that we are all on the SAME boat and its sinking. just random thoughts by some random internet guy. anyway back to the regularly scheduled bashing...

LOL ok... makes me feel neither good nor bad, nor do I claim some sort of moral superiority over our ancestors... Of course it wasn't as "Black and white" for many at the time... I also understand that at the time one identified 1st with their state then country ( as Robert E. Lee did) I'm just stating that is Historically inaccurate to claim that the Civil War was a State's Right issue first and foremost. As for the Confederate names of schools and Statues... Leave them up, doesn't bother me a bit

Fair... but lets not pretend that these non slave owners didnt understand what "the cause" was about either. The Confederate Constitution was nearly the same as our own, save a Line item veto by the executive and the line "No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed." Also in an 1861 speech Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederacy proclaimed that slavery was not only the cause for succession but also the "Cornerstone" of the Confederate Nation. I get your argument that if someone invaded my home, I would take up arms against them too, but lets not act like these soldiers weren't complicit in the continuation of the institution of slavery.

Can we all agree that Kansas is the GOAT Midwest state?

A state's right to do what exactly? allow slavery

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