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NYC can’t deny gun licenses based on applicants’ ‘moral character,’ federal judge rules .....A federal judge ruled Tuesday that New York City’s gun licensing regime, which allows city officials to turn down applicants for firearms based on their “moral character,” violates the Second Amendment....US District Judge John Cronan struck down the regulations in a 48-page ruling, determining that empowering unelected officials with discretionary authority to refuse gun permits to those “not of good moral character” or for “other good cause” is inconsistent with the country’s “tradition of firearm regulation” – a standard set by the Supreme Court in last year’s New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen case, which overturned the Empire State’s century-old law restricting the carrying of concealed firearms. ....Cronan found the argument unconvincing, writing that the NYC regulations “apply broadly to those seeking to possess a firearm.”......“[N]othing in either the Massachusetts or New Hampshire statute provides a burden on the right to bear arms comparable to a holistic and discretionary assessment of an individual’s character or other unspecified good cause prior to that individual’s ability to exercise their right to possess a firearm,” he added.....“This case is not about the ability of a state or municipality to impose appropriate and constitutionally valid regulations governing the issuance of firearm licenses and permits,” the judge wrote. ....Last year, the Supreme Court ruled that the Empire State’s “proper cause” requirement for concealed carry permits violated the US Constitution.....“The constitutional infirmities identified herein lie not in the City’s decision to impose requirements for the possession of handguns, rifles, and shotguns. Rather, the provisions fail to pass constitutional muster because of the magnitude of discretion afforded to City officials in denying an individual their constitutional right to keep and bear firearms, and because of Defendants’ failure to show that such unabridged discretion has any grounding in our Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation.” https://nypost.com/2023/10/24/metro/nyc-cant-deny-gun-licenses-based-on-applicants-moral-character-federal-judge-rules/

Freed 85-year-old grandma reveals what it’s really like in Gaza tunnels where hostages are held .....In the midst of massacres and kidnappings, an 85-year-old Israeli grandmother abducted and freed by Hamas terrorists has revealed what it was like being held in the terrifying maze of tunnels under Gaza.....Kibbutz resident Yocheved Lifshitz, one of an estimated 220 hostages taken violently by Hamas on October 7, endured a nightmarish two weeks as a prisoner in what she called a “spider’s web” of tunnels underneath the Gaza Strip before being released late Monday with another woman, 79-year-old Nurit Cooper. “They went rampant in our kibbutz,” she said of the terrorists who invaded her home at the Nir Oz kibbutz in southern Israel.......“They blew up the electronic fence, that special fence that cost 2.5 billion dollars to build but didn’t help with anything,” Lifshitz added.....“Masses mobbed our homes. They beat people, took some hostage. They didn’t distinguish between young and elderly, it was very painful.” She described how abductors grabbed and laid her out on a motorcycle before speeding off with her through thick bushes.....Lifshitz said she was beaten with sticks ribs during the ride: “The young men hit me on the way. They didn’t break my ribs but it was painful and I had difficulty breathing.” ....The terrorists also stole her watch and jewelry on the way to the hiding place.....“They brought us to the entrance to the tunnels. We arrived in the tunnel and walked for kilometers on wet dirt,” she added.....“There is a giant system of tunnels, like spider’s webs.”......“I have been in the tunnels, and once you go down you very quickly lose all sense of direction and all sense of time,” said Daphné Richemond-Barak, an assistant professor at Israel’s Reichman University ....“The consensus is that you only really send your soldiers in the tunnel as a measure of last resort, maybe to get hostages.” Much was made of photos showing Lifshitz shaking hands with a Hamas gunman and seeming to say “Shalom” to him just moments before she was released to International Red Cross officials at the Rafah crossing between Gaza and Egypt.....But Lifshitz, with the help of her daughter Sharone who translated some of what the older woman said during the news conference, conceded that the captors took good care of the hostages — making sure they were well fed and medically supervised......“They made sure we wouldn’t get sick, and we had a doctor with us every two or three days. They divided us into groups according to place of residence, took care of all our needs. To their credit, they kept us very clean. They made sure we ate, we ate the same food they did — pita bread with white cheese, processed cheese and cucumber.” https://nypost.com/2023/10/24/news/what-its-really-like-in-gaza-tunnels-where-hostages-are-held/

Tipping is so out-of-hand in NYC, even the Olive Garden adds automatic gratuities .....New York City diners have long been accustomed to having a mandatory gratuity added on to bills for large parties of six or eight. But, increasingly, it’s becoming common to see an 18% or 20% tip tacked on for parties of just one, two, three or four people — and some customers say it’s leaving a bad taste in their mouths. .....“It’s presumptuous. Our service was not very good,” said Miranda Jackson, a 39-year-old on vacation from Auburn, Alabama, who encountered an automatic gratuity while having lunch at Five Acres in Rockefeller Center on Tuesday with her parents and two children. “It’s almost like it doesn’t incentivize them to have good service. Our food came out at separate times. We waited forever.” Restaurateurs say chowhounds should get used to it......“Almost every restaurant in Miami does an automatic service, and in New York it is still not common, but I think you will see it more and more,” said James Mallios, the owner of Amali on 60th Street and Calissa in Water Mill, both of which add 18% to all checks. “It’s a European approach to include service, and at least 50% might leave something small on top of it, the way they would in Europe.” Mallios’s restaurants notify diners of the surcharge on the menu, as well as the website and the bill itself. (NYC restaurant inspections require that such charges be “conspicuously disclosed to consumers before food is ordered.”) If people take issue, he said they happily offer a refund.....Mallios claims 98% of his customers from the city and the Hamptons don’t mind. Those from the suburbs, he said, are more likely to bristle......“When they act upset, it’s really about loss of the power dynamic,” Mallios said. “They want to be able to determine a person’s wage, and this is the only industry where you can do that.” The charge appears especially common at restaurants in neighborhoods frequented by tourists......The Olive Garden Times Square does a stealth move where receipts have a total with a “suggested” 18% gratuity added in. A line with an asterisk below notes that customers should “feel free” to increase or decrease the suggested amount. ......Todd Shapiro, who owns three locations of Empire Steak House — in Midtown East, Midtown West and Times Square — plans to start adding an 18% gratuity to parties of all sizes right after the holidays. .....“We have a lot of Europeans and South Americans who don’t understand the tipping culture,” he said. “I used to be a waiter at Peter Luger’s and some people would leave a couple of dollars on a $200 dinner.” https://nypost.com/lifestyle/tipping-is-out-of-hand-in-nyc-even-at-the-olive-garden/

"Shooting" via traditional wrestling, it's hard to get most people comfortable with that because you have to expose your knee. On a mat is one thing. On something like asphalt or concrete is another. Someone with a lot of training and experience, with the muscle memory, that can assess range and the timing, that's different. Everyone else, it could go wrong pretty fast. IMHO, a judo throw is more practical. But probably more devastating. Especially if the ground is hard concrete. Once on the ground, and most people end up on the ground in a fight, most people would be better off understanding the practical basics ( where are your shoulders and hips, street fights might include all their friends stomping on your head on the ground, don't needlessly extend your arms out, never give someone your back, etc, etc) I'll say this much, once you assess someone is hostile, don't stay sitting down while the other person is standing over you. Also keep your hair short. A lot of these fights fall apart because most people don't know how to breathe effectively while in close contact. I don't know, if I only had an hour with a teenager to teach them to defend themselves, I'd focus on basic ground techniques and how to effectively hammer fist someone. Ground and Pound is more intuitive for beginners. I agree, learning to "shoot" per wrestling is very effective when done right. But that's a high bar for most people. EDIT: I added videos because talking about "shooting", some of these activist radical will try to spin that into something more nefarious than basic wrestling to try to get us banned.

I love your energy. All I ask is you don't get banned again. Because "they" are looking for anything to hit the Report Button on you again and get you banned. This place needs your energy and content. When they try to bait you and ambush you, don't fall into it. Also they'll scrutinize every word you say to see what they can try to game the Report Button on to get you banned. But you already know this. I'd rather have you here, with us, posting a lot, than not at all. But you already know that brother.

Trump doesn't want to do debates because he likely has to pick out of that group for VPOTUS. The RNC does not want the same situation in 2020 between Biden and Harris in the primary debates. Harris implied Biden was a racist and that all the sexual allegations against him were true. Then she had to backtrack, which failed miserably. Someone like Nikki Haley, her best chance at future POTUS is to be VPOTUS first, then bide her time, then run in 2028 if Trump wins in 2024. There's no incentive for her to debate Trump. Even if she can hammer him in a debate, the numbers won't shake out for her to get the nomination. Trump, on his end, actually needs someone like Haley ( good looking minority woman with no scandal and foreign policy chops) This is more logistical for VPOTUS than for avoiding talks of "sedition" Trump has zero chance to be charged with sedition. It's pretty clear you are either reading sources that are making up sedition claims or you just don't understand the practical legal mechanics of actual sedition.

The Electoral College should be eliminated Twelve Democratic presidential candidates have explicitly called for the abolition of the Electoral College, while five others have said they are open to the idea...Some, like Sen. Elizabeth Warren, said they would back a constitutional amendment....Still others, like South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, called the Electoral College “undemocratic,” but hasn’t been clear on how he would repeal the system...Four Democrats said they are open to abolishing the system but didn’t explicitly back doing so. Sen. Kamala Harris said she’s "open to the discussion," while Sen. Bernie Sanders said it’s “hard to defend the current system” https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/elections/electoral-college/ SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES CHIAFALO ET AL. v. WASHINGTON CERTIORARI TO THE SUPREME COURT OF WASHINGTON No. 19–465. Argued May 13, 2020—Decided July 6, 2020 “A State may enforce an elector’s pledge to support his party’s nominee—and the state voters’ choice—for President. … Electors are not free agents; they are to vote for the candidate whom the State’s voters have chosen.” https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-465_i425.pdf 1948 Democratic Convention Nearly two weeks after the convention, the president issued executive orders mandating equal opportunity in the armed forces and in the federal civil service. Outraged segregationists moved ahead with the formation of a States' Rights ("Dixiecrat") Party with Gov. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina as its presidential candidate...In the meantime, Thurmond, winning four states and 39 electoral votes, had fired a telling shot across the Democrats' bow. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1948-democratic-convention-878284/ U.S. Supreme Court Ray v. Blair, 343 U.S. 214 (1952) No. 649 Argued March 31, 1952 Decided April 3, 1952 https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/343/214/ Five Quotes From Joe Biden’s Eulogy of Famed Republican Racist Strom Thurmond "Strom Thurmond was also a brave man, who in the end made his choice and moved to the good side. I disagreed deeply with Strom on the issue of civil rights and on many other issues, but I watched him change. We became good friends."...1973 Joe Biden would be stunned to hear that he “disagreed deeply” with Strom on the issue of civil rights given that 1973 and 1974 Biden consistently voted against bills that would have integrated schools. He even used the same “forced busing” phrase that Thurmond used to voice his opposition to the bills he joined Biden in opposing. https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/joe-biden/five-quotes-from-joe-bidens-eulogy-of-famed-republ/ ***** Pennsylvania - No faithless elector laws Georgia - No faithless elector laws Michigan - Failure to vote as pledged cancels the vote and replaces the elector (Mich. Comp. Laws § 168.47 ) Arizona - Failure to vote as pledged cancels the vote and replaces the elector (Ariz. Rev. Stat § 16-212 ) Wisconsin - Vote counted as cast (Wis. Stat. § 7.75(2) ) Nevada - Failure to vote as pledged cancels the vote and replaces the elector (Nev. Rev. Stat. § 298.075(2) ) New Mexico - Vote counted as cast (N.M. Stat. Ann. § 1-15-9 ) - New Mexico is the only state that has some form of legal penalty on this list for electors whom refuse to vote as pledged. ***** The 2020 general election states in dispute are Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico. The United States Constitution does not cover the "Electoral College" in depth and never specifically does so by name. Article II and the 23rd Amendment are about logistics. The 12th Amendment defers specific breakdown of electors to state legislatures. ( SCOTUS reaffirms this in Chiafalo, but the distinction still remains that this is a matter for state legislatures to hash out for themselves in the details and previous precedents have only resulted in "fines" i.e. Colin Powell/Hillary Clinton) Two of the states mentioned have no laws regarding faithless electors. Three of the states mentioned allow some mechanism to replace electors in the case of faithless electors. Again, discretion is given to each respective state. The two states that could drive serious problems here are Wisconsin and New Mexico, but again, there would a require a deeper dive into their legislatures and election laws. From an optics standpoint, dragging out the "rebellious electors" narrative and the "strong arming electors" narrative and "fake electors" narrative will push the conversation back to Strom Thurmond and how SCOTUS got to the point to rule on elector vote adherence (i.e. Ray). Then it pushes back to Joe Biden's relationship with Thurmond and their role together on Civil Rights issues. Biden pushes identity politics when his entire political career, outside of the protection of the activist complicit MSM, shows him as a racist. This is not the kind of backdoor media narrative that the Biden Administration is going to want in 2024. This issue also drags out that POTUS contenders Warren, Sanders, Klobuchar and Buttigieg all wanted, on record, the electoral college to get wiped out. Kamala Harris maintains a fence sitter position here. None of this helps any of them if Trump and Eastman push the failures of the electoral college in the national daily media cycle. This particularly can hurt Buttigieg, and with the Afghanistan disaster, the Party apparatus needs a military man in tow for 2024 in some capacity. In short, there needs to be a state by state breakdown, considering their respective laws, of what is being considered "fake electors" I actually don't agree with what Trump did and said on J6. It was not in the best interests of functional governance and it was not what was best overall, by intent, for all Americans. That being said, these issues with the electors, on a broad scale, are still functionally MATTERS OF LAW and need to be examined by each state in question and by each accusation levied against what each respective state legislature has ruled and put in place. What are these "fake documents to change electors" if you have states that have mechanisms to actually replace electors? What exists as an "alternate/fake elector scheme" if you have states that have mechanisms to actually replace electors? So you'll ask, did Trump and Eastman commit conspiracy? Eastman presented a legal theory to Trump. They both approached Pence with it. Pence said I'll look into this and do my due diligence. Now Pence might have privately thought they were both insane and idiots and could see the dangerous pathway where this could all spiral out of control concerning rioting and violence in the streets. But it's Pence's job to do due diligence. He discussed it with his staff and legal experts around him and he told Trump and Eastman he could not support their claim. The faithless elector issue, which is a real complex legal discussion BEFORE TRUMP EVER ENTERED PROFESSIONAL POLITICS, is enough of a hedge that Trump can believe, in his own state of mind, that he won the election. Treason is off the table ( Trump is an idiot, he's not in league with the CCP and Xi to start World War III against the US). Sedition is off the table ( i.e the force test) . With the faithless elector issue, I'm going to have a hard time seeing conspiracy fly here and it provides some cover against obstruction. If even one single of the radical lefties here comes out to say Trump staying silent for hours as the riots and breaching kept going proves specific intent, go ahead and prepare to watch this prosecution fail. I'll say it again, many of the states in question have mechanisms by state law to actually replace electors. A few have no laws at all regarding faithless electors. How easily can you unpack "illegal" here? ******Here is the likely core argument John Eastman will make in his defense ( Because you need Eastman first to get Trump for any issue regarding electors) The electors were not "fake". There is plenty of preexisting legal dispute over the matter of "faithless electors" to explore all practical avenues to ensure a "free and fair election" The alternate electors were approached to cast their ballots or appealed to cast their ballots in order to prevent then sitting President Donald Trump from being disqualified by technicality in the event the mass of voter fraud lawsuits were successful. This dovetails back to W. Bush and Al Gore regarding Florida and the "Hanging Chads" in the 2000 general cycle. You cannot punish Eastman nor Trump for pursuing every legal avenue available. ******* Jenna Ellis pleaded guilty relating to "alleged lies" made by Giuliani. Chesebro only implicated himself, regarding issues involving electors, but did not implicate Trump in his guilty plea. If you want Trump for the elector issue, you need John Eastman first. (Ellis, Powell and Chesbro don't get you Eastman) However, Georgia, again, at the time and place of the 2020 general election, has no laws on the books regarding faithless electors. Now Team Blue and the DNC might be able to massage some of the lower courts on this, but good luck trying to hang this hat on Trump if this gets to SCOTUS. And remember, fair or not - Kavanaugh had an assassin stalking him near his own home and the activist complicit MSM egged it on. Merrick Garland did nothing and just let it unfold. Alito and Thomas were run through the dirt, also Thomas' wife as well ( I would argue the financial grift there is indefensible, that being said, there are no mechanism to practically remove Alito and Thomas, and it's not like they are going to forget any of that) During Coney Barrett's confirmation hearing, she was repeatedly subjected to softly being called a wh0re to her face. Also she was run over with purity tests about adopting children in need and giving them a home. This was so egregious that Feinstein, what was left of her then, had to basically apologize to ACB's face, in public, over the disgusting display. Gorsuch knows if the fringe radical left get tired of trying to pick off Kavanaugh, that he's next. He's the fall guy for bad blood over McConnell and Garland. You need a pure smoking gun. Like Trump and the audio released about the documents case. That's a smoking gun. Trump is really out of rope on that one. However Team Blue needs to show specific intent from Trump. That he clearly knew he lost and still drove forward anyway to change the results of the election. Ellis and Powell testifying to what they think Trump meant within his own state of mind isn't going to do it. There needs to be video and/or audio. Of Trump literally admitting he lost the election, he knew it and that he was going to do whatever possible to subvert the results. It doesn't help that since this is Georgia, this will drag up Stacey Abrams refusing to concede the Governor elections to Brian Kemp. From a legal standpoint, there are some very high bars to cross to get Trump in Georgia. The documents case has real teeth. The rest of these cases not so much. Many of these people are pleading guilty on the basis of believing Trump will win 2024 and then immediately pardon them. Get Eastman and you have some basis to say Trump's situation is getting murkier. Ellis is small potatoes here though in that regard. Put it this way, if there was sufficient indisputable legal rope to nail Trump on Georgia, it would have happened a long time ago. As a matter of the "Court Of Public Opinion", if you chase a guy for 8 plus years straight, and you don't deliver, and he's the center of all outrage for nearly a decade by the 2024 general election, then people just get tired. Lots of Americans are "So What?" at this point. They just want some semblance of hope at the gas pump, grocery store prices and rent costs. They want their kids not to suffer anymore from the linger devastating lockdowns. They'd like law and order in the streets again. If you make one guy the center of all evil in America for 8 plus years, you've normalized it now. People will just shrug their shoulders and say, "OK, what's new, that's not unusual, Trump's the devil" and move on. The rank and file working class American has an actual "saturation point" when it comes to Trump and his exhausting non stop media pathway. The documents case, again, has real legal teeth, and many Americans are so tired of the same "We got him, no no, this time, we really promise we got him!" angle that they just move on. So when Team Blue FINALLY found something to get Trump on, with the documents scandal, the American public is just out of steam on it. The activist MSM has lied so much, that even when they occasionally tell the truth, such as the documents case, many in the public will just write it off as another lie. And that's not just Conservatives doing that. Plenty of moderates, independents and undecideds have abandoned the core MSM and assume everything is a lie. Team Blue and the DNC brought that outcome on themselves.

I held down the fort for you, my friend. Good to see you back.

Well, at least I can say one thing for WG, at least he didn't generate a quarter of a million posts because he couldn't handle his wife's drinking problems like others. Imagine being an out of control lush, and you have to watch your husband spend endless time over close to 20 years pumping out hundreds of thousands of posts full of nothing but transferred hate. I wonder if she just sat down in front of his laptop on some occasion. Sifting through all the gaslighting, ad hominem, personal attacks, sea lioning and bad faith for sport. On the flip side, it's likely both of these horrible posters are just outright bigots. One bragging about paying illegal immigrants sub minimum wage to illegally dump abandoned items on site and the other clearly having a problem with the entire LGBT community.

Hitler was the reason the VW Beetle was invented and was made, for the most part, affordable for many in the German working class at the time. One thing doesn't wash away the rest of the carnage.

Is there a correlation to Twitter, under Musk, readjusting to real subscriber numbers, thus current advertisers are leery of how many "bots" are present on site? ( i.e. a function of how Twitter operated under Jack Dorsey) I'm sure some companies will depart because they are ideologically opposed to Musk, but how many would that be? No other platform can compete with Twitter for what it does right now. You don't want to explore that question. In fact, you'll crow on again and again that you have me blocked. OK, if this is blocked, you'll see none of these videos and learn nothing and have no context. That's your choice.

How many of those "active users" in total were real? Clearly Twitter under Jack Dorsey , i.e. the previous ownership, were manipulating the numbers. Which is fraud when you consider Dorsey's Twitter sold advertising, under legal contract, to large corporations, under the premise that the general Twitter userbase was "real" and the numbers were accurate.

I was gone from the "other place" for many years. If not for the pandemic, it was unlikely that I would have returned. But what was the end result? It's been locked down and even current event discussion is heavily curtailed. In my book, the activist leftists lost ( I have no problem with traditional liberals) They were entitled and believed they could just keep acting in a toxic way forever and get away with it. Now they have nothing. Now many have come here and the dynamics are not the same. Their cheap games and tactics don't work here. They'll face more confrontation. I believe the site owner at the other place wants to and has always wanted to see the best in other people. I can actually understand that sentiment as a value system. The problem though, IMHO, is some people, including the worst posters at the other place, are just fundamentally bad human beings. And they took advantage of that goodwill and behaved abusively. Some of the worst bad faith actors at the "other place" are just bad human beings to their core. And their toxic behavior is simply a lagging indicator of their lack of real character. What's unfortunate is many people who did nothing wrong, the silent majority most likely, also had to take the hit too. They didn't appreciate what they had, now they have nothing, let's see how much they like that better. Think about timschochet. He spent close to a couple of decades at the other place. With all his aliases, had about a quarter of a million posts ( how is that possible?). He was established here. Then it all got taken away from him because he had no self control and couldn't get along with other people. Now he's here, angry and bitter about it, attacking people here for sport because he can't do it over there. Would anyone here really want Tim as a neighbor? A boss? A coworker? Break bread or share a beer with him? Be in the same gym as him? Be even in the same side of the street as him? Tim hates himself and just can't contain that in isolation, so he has to lash out at people here and at the other place. He's too mentally weak to suffer in silence like most other people. I feel sorry for his kids. Imagine being "raised" by that level of repugnant pathology.

I'm OK with @weepaws I believe there is a misconception that Christians need to be meek and submissive, just because that's how they are often portrayed on TV, books, film, etc, etc. I also am likely a good clip older than most people here, so I remember a time when there wasn't such open acrimony to Christianity in general. I get that it's a two way street and not all Christians are engaging in the best way possible with the public, and I certainly have no lost love for organized religion in general, but I don't have a problem with the power of faith. There's a difference between "understanding" someone's pain and then "accepting their behavior" because of that pain. I sympathize with people with heavy addiction issues. I "understand" that this is a complex area of our society. And I "understand" that many addicts are coming from a place of pain, possibly mental illness, and/or previous child abuse. But I don't have to "accept" that addict trying to mug me for my wallet. I've always seen Christian forgiveness built around understanding the behavior, not that you have to universally accept it. Sometimes, some people just need to get punched in the face. Or worse. @weepaws is not meek, and this place is clearly built to just attack everyone, so that's going to naturally cause confrontations. I suspect many people generally expect Christians to be meek by default. Out of all the people here, I'd buy him a steak, if he lived in the city I'm in right now. We'd have to find a place that could more easily accommodate my wheel chair, but I'd break bread with him. To each their own.

Team Blue will cheat. No doubt in my mind at this point. Every way possible. If that doesn't work, they'll attempt to assassinate Trump, if it's clear he'll win. ( This is why the Speaker position is in so much flux right now, Trump wants someone loyal to him there, so if he is assassinated, along with his VPOTUS, the line of succession will fall to someone who will go after Team Blue and the corporate establishment) If they can't manage that, they'll engage in endless rioting, looting and burning like in 2020. The hard line establishment Democrats in real power would rather America be turned to ash, and to leave their children nothing, than to see Trump in the White House again.

I'm from the "other place" I'd be happy to volunteer to leave, take a voluntary permanent banning and never return, if MikeFFToday did the same to timschochet, Gutterboy, squistion, Sho Nuff ( and his aliases) and whatever aliases that James Daulton/Wade Garrett is using right now. MikeFFT can delete all my thread topics and posts too, as long as he does the same to all the other bad faith actor toxic people that I've listed. I actually contribute here. ( People can agree or disagree with my viewpoints, but I don't post lazy ) But I'll take the hit upfront if it means the trash gets taken out too.

"They" are here because they can only exist in a place where they won't be permanently banned. That's the thing, the worst bad faith actors from the "other place" would be banned for good at nearly every other established community on the internet. Here's the litmus test - Imagine deleting all that person's posts, plus all the posts of their aliases, then ask yourself what would be lost. I have no quarrel with traditional liberals. But you'll find that category of "No Great Loss" would be filled 95 percent full of the activist radical leftist idiots here.

Nate Silver rips NY Times, NBC’s Ben Collins over Gaza coverage .....Nate Silver took aim at the New York Times and NBC reporter Ben Collins over their coverage of the explosion near a Gaza hospital that was initially blamed on Israel.....Silver, the former head of data and polling news site FiveThirtyEight, said the Times “screwed up” by not changing its headline about the hospital incident after more details emerged suggesting that it was an errant Palestinian rocket that caused the blast.....The Times’ headline that was initially posted on Tuesday afternoon read: “Israeli Strike Kills Hundreds in Hospital, Palestinian Officials Say.”....“Almost every word of that first clause is now disputed,” Silver wrote in a blog posting on his Substack page.....The explosion apparently happened in a parking lot adjacent to the hospital, which remains largely intact. Silver also noted that the death toll “remains unclear” given that “forensic evidence doesn’t seem to be particularly consistent with a three-figure number.” “Shouldn’t newsrooms just be more careful in these situations? The short answer is ‘yes,’” Silver wrote.....Silver wrote that the Times “frames itself as an innocent, passive actor” that was “neglecting its role in trying to steer” the coverage.....“That’s complete bulls–t, because the Times is extremely and often somewhat proudly self-conscious of this role,” Silver wrote.....Silver wondered why Robertson “couldn’t even get a comment from an editor in the Times newsroom” and instead “had to rely on the PR department.” The New York Times misrepresented a photo of a semi-demolished building to be the location of the Gaza Hospital, which the paper initially reported on Tuesday as hit by an “Israeli strike.”...According to its own wire service, the Times identified the location of the photo to be in Khan Younis, a locality in the south of the Gaza Strip, which is not in the northern area of Gaza City.....The Times photo depicts a structure halfway demolished, an entirely different scene than photos reported by other establishment outlets. For example, CNN and the Wall Street Journal reported photos of the blast area showing what appeared to be a parking lot with trees nearby and without building debris. “[W]hen NYTimes published a fictitious story from Hamas about Israel bombing a hospital, NYT used a picture from a completely different location to make it look like a picture of the hospital that was ‘destroyed,'” author and lawyer Michael P Senger posted on X. “Astonishing disinformation and journalistic malpractice.”...The misrepresentation of the blast site comes after the Times reportedly edited its headline twice on Tuesday about the hospital blast, changing the title each time to reflect less blame against Israel for the tragic explosion. https://nypost.com/2023/10/20/nate-silver-rips-ny-times-nbcs-ben-collins-over-gaza-coverage/ https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/19/nyt-prints-dishonest-photo-fake-gaza-hospital-story-astonishing-disinformation/