Blue Horseshoe

Great thread here, I appreciate it. What's completely ironic about all this is the activist radical left, in here and out there, are the BEST ADVERTISEMENT POSSIBLE to support Conservatism. I didn't say Republicans and I didn't say the GOP, but actual Conservative values. Would anyone want timschochet, squistion, Wade Garrett, Gutterboy, dogcows and all the rest as neighbors? Someone to rely on in a true national emergency? As teachers in their local public school near actual children? As law enforcement or health care personnel in their local area? As elected officials tasked to creating and enforcing public policy for the greater good of actual citizens? It's their behavior that makes Conservativism look appealing by simple contrast. You can be a Conservative and not support each and every last thing the Republican Party does. There are lots of things that I find corrupt and idiotic about the GOP. However the same "loons" attempt to link up all Conservatives in dogmatic lockstep to each and every thing said and done by elected Republicans. That's an attempt to create a monolith, so it's easier to hate us and see us all purged eventually. What's even more pathetic is Trump wasn't even there, and these "loons" still had to try to blame everything that happened at that debate on Trump. I rarely use the term "TDS", but clearly Trump Derangement Syndrome is very very real. timschochet's progressive mental breakdown would be actually tragic, if he didn't go out of his way with his toxic behavior to just attack everyone all the time for the crime of not thinking exactly as he does.

Team Blue and the corporate establishment have no intention of ever letting Trump be POTUS again. One of the reasons that so many are vying to be VPOTUS is there's a decent chance that Trump is assassinated by 2024. It's not like he doesn't have enemies. And it's pretty clear Team Blue and the DNC have a pure no holds barred approach with The Big Cheeto. Just because I believe Trump is a total imbecile doesn't mean it's OK to be politically persecuted like this. Establishment Democrats basically allowed the actual FBI to go on the chopping block to go after Trump. There is little to no chance the agency survives once the GOP retakes POTUS at some point. That's why Kari Lake is pushing so hard. Her path to POTUS is pretty smooth if Trump picks her. Because if Trump is picked off by the fringe radical left, that would put Lake in immediate power. Everyone in the GOP is considering this. Scott, Haley, Ben Carson, Gabbard, Byron Donalds, all of them. We are talking about politcians that don't have another path upwards. Ramaswamy has enough leverage to turn down VPOTUS. So does DeSantis. But for someone like Lake or Scott, this is their best shot at true power. At at any point, Biden could just drop dead. I mean look at him. He's falling apart daily. It gets worse and worse. Also Trump is not the beacon of good health. And he's old. And too heavy. Doesn't exercise. There's no guarantee that Trump and/or Biden make it to 2024. Also BOTH of them exist in situations where THEIR OWN PARTY wants them gone. Biden is no safer than Trump in that regard. This debate actually mattered a great deal.

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It's a quasi audition for VPOTUS. The person with the most room to help themselves for VPOTUS is Tim Scott. He provides a minority (if it's Trump getting the nomination) but is completely non threatening (because you can't pick someone who will butt heads with Trump, that just won't work) Pence is broke and just needs the money. He's essentially being paid to be a mouthpiece for hard line Pro Life. Nikki Haley is playing it safe because that's her best chance at this point. She's aging out, one of the drawbacks of being a woman in politics, but she's the clear favorite to be Trump's pick for VPOTUS. This is a huge platform for Ramaswamy. Most people don't see it now, but he could take the nomination next year. His rise is exponential at this point. Ronna McDaniel and RNC HQ actually tried to limit him out of this debate. But the guy is unstoppable. Now Trump is still the favorite for the nomination, but the polling numbers with that "huge lead" are completely cooked.

These videos are smart on Gabbard's part. She's setting the perception and narrative that she's young and capable. Willing to work hard and not make excuses. Also, as some "eye candy", that will appeal to both some male voters and female voters. The modern American political structure up top is now a gerontocracy. That troubles lots of Americans. So these kind of short releases provides an instant counter narrative to that. It's good politics. It's good media optics. Trump has not picked a VPOTUS candidate yet. So Gabbard, while a long shot, is technically in the running. He needs a minority woman with established name recognition. If it's not Nikki Haley, then Gabbard is on the short list. Other than that, she's a candidate for a GOP cabinet position. She's good looking, can handle the media, has a military service record, is young and energetic and can offer a kind of rational approach that is sorely lacking in Trump, Biden, Newsom and Harris. Gabbard operates as proof of life that something is very wrong with the DNC and DCCC. She is literally a textbook perfect candidate. And they turfed her because they couldn't control her and many of her viewpoints were too progressive in nature. Team Blue would have won POTUS 2020 and 2024 easily with Gabbard. Look how thin their "bench" is right now. If Biden gets pushed aside, their next best hope is... Gavin Newsom. That's just pathetic.

The radical leftists in here don't seem to get what is going on. The attempted assassination of SCOTUS Kavanaugh has hardened the Conservative Catholic core on the Court. Merrick Garland did literally nothing. Zero. It's pretty obvious that the DNC and Team Blue is using Big Social Media and the hard left leaning MSM to attempt to incite the fringe extremist left to go pick off someone on SCOTUS. Power only changes hands through retirement or death. Personally, I find Kavanaugh, as a pure jurist, to be incompetent. He's a lecher, no one disputes that in the entire legal world. But just because I think he's an idiot doesn't mean it's OK for there to be clear pattern of strategy by Team Blue to try to get SCOTUS picked off. At least the Conservatives on board. These people are human beings as well. You can't egg on their deaths, because that's exactly what is going on here, and not see some kind of response in their rulings. Mazie Hirono basically called Coney Barrett a wh0re to her face, during her hearings. Why was that necessary? It wasn't. But Hirono had to show she would "Defend The Blue Tribe" at all costs. And all the free stuff that Clarence Thomas got is indefensible. Should he be removed from SCOTUS? Yes, if all the allegations are true, however there needs to be mechanism that upholds basic Checks And Balances and Separations Of Powers. Team Blue wants Thomas out to try to retake the Court for themselves. They want Congress to set standards for SCOTUS. Well it's not how our Founding Fathers set that up. I don't have a problem with Thomas getting the boot. However, there needs to be a real process other than the partisan upside for the DNC.

I disagree. The attempt here was to paint Ramaswamy in the same light as RFK JR, i.e. was some kind of fringe lunatic conspiracy theorist. IMHO, he was taken out of context. If you don't defend your boundaries, you allow someone else to frame the narrative around you. If Ramaswamy lets that happen, then he loses. Defending your boundaries is not the same as attacking someone. The "pushback" is because of the logistics of the circumstances. Short interviews remove all practical context. To explain himself would take time and context that CNN wouldn't give Vivek. Their only purpose was to operate as another hit job to see Trump win the primary, because Team Blue assesses that Trump is the only one they can beat. I understand the increase in hostility, part of Collins' strategy was to play into the open racism against Asians that many white Americans have in this country. She only has the job through the casting couch and because the hope is she will appeal to young white suburban women voters. Since Ramaswamy can't roll out context here, he's leaning into the major distrust of the clear corporate media establishment. The majority of Americans out there, aside from hard line zealots, don't have any reason to trust the overall MSM. They are activists, not journalists. From the optics standpoint Collins - "You can't trust him. He's a Republican and he's brown." Ramaswamy - "She's lying. Because the MSM always lies to you no matter what."

What's almost hilarious ( if it wasn't tragic and if it wasn't horrible for our entire country as a whole in terms of pure open government corruption) is that many of the things that Trump says ends up being completely true. He's laughed at and mocked for it in the activist left leaning MSM and on most of Big Social Media and through the entertainment industry, but slowly and surely, many of his claims ( not all but far too many about persecution) become validated. Trump said Biden used his position as VPOTUS to leverage Ukraine, for his own personal profit and to further line the pockets of Hunter and James Biden. That ended up turning out into far more right now than the mockery and laughter Trump got in the beginning for saying it. Trump said the Obama Administration spied on him. True. Trump said Russiagate was a coordinated political hit job against him. True. Trump said many agencies like the FBI and the intelligence services were clearly out to get him, beyond all reasonable measure. True. Trump said Biden would drive this country into the ground, and gasoline prices would explode upwards and losing our "energy independence" was a pure threat to our national security. True. So a lot of what Trump talks about is crap. He's a grifter and personally I find him to be an imbecile. But when he's specifically talking about political persecution and failed Team Blue public policy, he's very often vindicated. I don't agree with his J6 madness and many of his actions/responses/statements on many other issues. But here's the thing, back to Joe Biden's votes in 2020. Wouldn't surprise me if it came out that the DNC, DCCC and the corporate establishment, all conspired with the remnants of the "Obama Shadow Third Term" bad faith actors and completely cooked the general election. Trump said he was cheated out of 2020. Would it be that surprising if he was proven right down the road? Wouldn't shock me in the slightest. Now I don't agree with his response with J6, the electors, his "Stop The Steal" routine, if only because none of that is actually effective. None of that helps him win again. He should have shut his mouth, marshalled his asset and resources, then prepared to win 2024 ( would have been so much easier without saying "Stop The Steal" out loud, even if it's actually true), then got back into office and gone on a pure retribution tour. Right now Joe Biden is making it easier for Americans to die. It comes down to that. His failures, weakness, corruption and BS make us all look like a big fat target to our natural enemies. Do you think Putin and Xi Jinping have any fear at all about the Biden Administration? Or do you think this current clown show will only embolden them to come kill us all.

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES CHIAFALO ET AL. v. WASHINGTON CERTIORARI TO THE SUPREME COURT OF WASHINGTON No. 19–465. Argued May 13, 2020—Decided July 6, 2020 “A State may enforce an elector’s pledge to support his party’s nominee—and the state voters’ choice—for President. … Electors are not free agents; they are to vote for the candidate whom the State’s voters have chosen.” https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-465_i425.pdf U.S. Supreme Court Ray v. Blair, 343 U.S. 214 (1952) No. 649 Argued March 31, 1952 Decided April 3, 1952 https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/343/214/ ***** Pennsylvania - No faithless elector laws Georgia - No faithless elector laws Michigan - Failure to vote as pledged cancels the vote and replaces the elector (Mich. Comp. Laws § 168.47 ) Arizona - Failure to vote as pledged cancels the vote and replaces the elector (Ariz. Rev. Stat § 16-212 ) Wisconsin - Vote counted as cast (Wis. Stat. § 7.75(2) ) Nevada - Failure to vote as pledged cancels the vote and replaces the elector (Nev. Rev. Stat. § 298.075(2) ) New Mexico - Vote counted as cast (N.M. Stat. Ann. § 1-15-9 ) - New Mexico is the only state that has some form of legal penalty on this list for electors whom refuse to vote as pledged. ***** The states in dispute are Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico. The United States Constitution does not cover the "Electoral College" in depth and never specifically does so by name. Article II and the 23rd Amendment are about logistics. The 12th Amendment defers specific breakdown of electors to state legislatures. ( SCOTUS reaffirms this in Chiafalo, but the distinction still remains that this is a matter for state legislatures to hash out for themselves in the details and previous precedents have only resulted in "fines" i.e. Colin Powell/Hillary Clinton) Two of the states mentioned have no laws regarding faithless electors. Three of the states mentioned allow some mechanism to replace electors in the case of faithless electors. Again, discretion is given to each respective state. The two states that could drive serious problems here are Wisconsin and New Mexico, but again, there would a require a deeper dive into their legislatures and election laws. What are these "fake documents to change electors" if you have states that have mechanisms to actually replace electors? What exists as an "alternate/fake elector scheme" if you have states that have mechanisms to actually replace electors? The faithless elector issue, which is a real complex legal discussion BEFORE TRUMP EVER ENTERED PROFESSIONAL POLITICS, is enough of a hedge that Trump can believe, in his own state of mind, that he won the election. Here is the likely core argument John Eastman will make in his defense: The electors were not "fake". There is plenty of preexisting legal dispute over the matter of "faithless electors" to explore all practical avenues to ensure a "free and fair election" The alternate electors were approached to cast their ballots or appealed to cast their ballots in order to prevent then sitting President Donald Trump from being disqualified by technicality in the event the mass of voter fraud lawsuits were successful. This dovetails back to W. Bush and Al Gore regarding Florida and the "Hanging Chads" in the 2000 general cycle. You cannot punish Eastman nor Trump for pursuing every legal avenue available.

I actually don't agree. There are many "traditional liberals" who oppose woke and identity politics, it's just the activist MSM refuses to give them any kind of platform whatsoever. Abagail Spanberger is a House Democrat out of Virginia. The average American outsider her district has no clue that she even exists. The activist left leaning MSM, just outright propagandists at this point, would never give her a major platform. However "leftists" are a different story. They are typically woke unhinged entitled zealots who want to see this country burned to the ground. The reason I won't give them "credit" is because they control Big Education. Also Hollywood. Most of Big Social Media and most of Big Finance. They control Big Tech. They have a majority of the MSM at their disposal. They have major strongholds in Big Blue Cities. How do you have operational control of most of the "levers" of power in this country and still not completely dominate the modern political environment? How do you lose to Donald Trump in 2016? Even he said it himself in public, that if Clinton loses to him, that's just pathetic, because how could you lose to someone like Trump? Team Blue projects to get completely blitzed in Congressional races in 2024. How do you control most of Big Social Media and not control the entire public narrative? How do you let Elon Musk sneak in and buy Twitter? In 2016, the DNC and DCCC got their lunch handed to them by Steve Bannon, Kellyanne Conway and Mark Burnett in the shadows. How do you let that happen? All are talented, but none were highly established professional political operatives. Mark Penn was a Clinton strategist in 2015. He was fired for saying that Clinton desperately needed to start doing things to appeal to working class voters. That the huge financial warchest amassed couldn't bowl over the disenfranchised. Penn was dumped for basic common sense. Clinton snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory. She literally had all the horses on her side and she was later found to be doing home cooking with the false Russia Gate, right after rigging the primaries against Bernie Sanders. Jaime Harrison of DNC HQ spend MILLIONS to come up with the slogan - Democrats Deliver. That's it. That's all he had. His idea was that whenever Team Blue was faced with criticism, they should, by default, say that "Democrats Deliver" MILLIONS. For that. Sorry, my friend, you know I have a lot of love in my heart for you, but I'm not giving credit to these nimrods. The only reason they get away with so much is because all the horses are lined up in their favor. That's not skill. That's just unearned leverage.

What's totally bizarre about Biden politically is that it is incredibly difficult to remove a sitting first term POTUS out of the nomination for a potential 2nd term. Neera Tanden is one of the most ruthless current political operatives from the "leftist" ranks anywhere in the country. And now she has operational day to day control of the White House. She's not giving that up. She and Jill Biden will literally pump Joe Biden full of whatever to keep him going to try to win POTUS again. Biden is obviously on something most of the time to keep him upright. Well, as much as that's possible. If DNC HQ and the DCCC try to primary out Biden, and bypass Harris to do it, for Newsom, that's pure political poison. There is no functional narrative to skip over the first black female VPOTUS from the nomination, if Biden is pushed aside, for the archetype of "white privilege" in Gavin Newsom. How can you hold onto your identity politics agenda like that? While a lot of black voters might find Harris to be an idiot, to be shoved aside like that will create losses to the Progressive base. I'm not going to sit here and say Team Blue will lose their strongholds to the GOP, but they risk being hit hard in primaries from those supported by Sanders and AOC. Out of the original Squad, three of the four won a primary against a much more statistically favored establishment Democrat. Hawaii is considered a blue safe zone politically. And after this, will that still be true? This is where all of this can backfire very badly. Team Blue is intentionally trying to railroad Biden from 2024 POTUS to shift over in the primaries. But if they fail, because that's not something that can just magically happen, then all they've done is damage him in the general election against what will likely be Trump. Even Biden failure without forcing him out is helping Trump win in the future. How crazy is that. And the sad thing is Tanden and Team Blue are counting votes lost now, not lives lost. They don't care. Regular people are just cattle to them.

Trump ran out of money at the end of his campaigns in 2016 and 2020. Elizabeth Warren vowed not to take PAC money in 2020, trying to only rely on small dollar donations, and she eventually caved, and ended up taking corporate PAC money because her coffers were empty. The largest problem is you can't win without lots of money. Part of the reason Liz Cheney jumped ship is because she could no longer rise in the Republican Party. She was, at one time, the third ranking in the House GOP. But it was clear she was going to be replaced by Elise Stefanik and the RNC would not open the purse strings for a POTUS run. In order to have what you say you want, you'd need a candidate who was independently wealthy in a way that no one could match. Also, with that, you'd need that person to develop a piece of technology, say the newest version of the IPad-like device, that they give "free" to everyone in the country. And everyone uses it, and all messaging could be relayed through that platform. You need to circumvent the "corporate capture" of how information is used and released within this country. Then you can have a true "outsider" to the system. That's it. That's the only path to an "outsider", and they'd be immediately persecuted. In effect, other than a military coup, there is no other path to change the current trajectory of politics in America. This is late stage capitalism. The center does not hold. This is all going to fall apart. It can't be saved. Not without lots of violence.

Trump only went after the media establishment because they mocked him endlessly. The seeds were planted in 2012, but it kept snowballing once 2015 came around. It was completely unnecessary. Hollywood, Big Social Media, that idiot Obama, Late Night TV, many others couldn't help themselves, they had to show their leftist arrogance. If they treated him as something other than a joke, none of this would have ever happened. At the 2020 Democratic National Convention, DNC HQ decided to give AOC just 60 seconds to speak. Combined with hosing Bernie Sanders, this caused a two front war for establishment Democrats. Again, it wasn't necessary, but it was the same leftist arrogance. Trump is in it for Trump. If any of it happened to help real working class people, that was a positive coincidence. When Trump does what he wants for Trump, and working class people have to suffer, he doesn't care. But while the entire country keeps talking about Trump, they aren't talking about things like health care, jobs, K-12 schools that need overhaul, affordable housing, national security, the economy, etc, etc. In that regard, Trump right now is HURTING all working class people. You are right in that "leftists" ( I have no quarrel with traditional liberals in this country) have no sense of boundaries nor respect and will do just about anything to destroy all Conservatives. No argument here. If they could get away with it, they'd have us all killed outright. Just line us up and have us all hanged. But I don't agree with you that Trump is a good President. He had good policy when Kellyanne Conway was running the country for him, when that stopped, the fracture points and decline began to show. The only reason Trump looks like an option for 2024 is because Team Blue has failed so catastrophically the past three years. He's not setting the bar so high, they've set the bar so low that Trump can see daylight again from the murky depths. Trump gets his feelings hurt all the time. It's why he attacks everything and everyone, all the time. If he had real thick skin, he would just brush it off and keep delivering wins for the American people. Trump is no hero. He was a useful tool in 2016 and now he's all burned out. He offers little to nothing for Conservatives in 2024 other than at least he's not a walking and stumbling human house plant like Joe Biden. The Big Cheeto's only real appeal is, with the "First Past The Post" system, we all only really get two choices. And since the other choice is Joe Biden, it's a race to see who is the least likely to be bribed by an egg salad sandwich. If Team Blue had one shred of real common sense, they would have backed Tulsi Gabbard entirely in 2020, and she would be looking to coast into her 2nd term as POTUS in 2024 easily. And not a single person would be talking about Donald Trump anymore. And many of the stupid things going on right now would not have ever happened.

WatsonRules = timschochet He's using the same patterns as he did with the other place, when he's not getting enough attention with his "main account", then he uses aliases to try to support his positions or continue to try to bait people. The part that really disturbed people is sometimes Tim would argue with his own aliases in public at the "other place" Sometimes in extended fashion. Maybe he thought it would make everything seem "authentic" in his own mind. What explains this all is Tim never posts anything he really believes. Once people can accept that about Tim, then his game is easy to figure out. All Tim wants is attention, as much attention as possible, and will take any "position" that gets him that. He could get attention by providing value and having something interesting to say, but he lacks that capability. Since he has no interesting thoughts and opinions, all he can do is treat every place he goes like a personal toilet. Which is why he literally ran "the other place" into the ground. Almost completely by himself.