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From his start in his candidacy, while there are many examples you can find, I will offer at least one to demonstrate that from start they were saying things such as "the "evenhanded" view of Trump that emerges from traditional reporting is that he’s a dangerous maniac — Democrats say it" So it is far from "completely wrong" as you are suggesting, fortunately the internet tends to be a nice archive for all of their behaviors. It happened across the media, hell, I think it could be fair to say that Trump "broke" CNN....turned them into something else....they became something less, and morose. I think there are people who were worse than Trump in terms of political discourse, but there is some subjectivity to that. I have not found him too out of hand, though I have not and need not agree with every word from his mouth. His reaction to the media was spot on, and I was gratifed that he stood up to their attempts to take him down, and he still does, and I focking love it. Denying the media the ability to dictate elections and outcomes, is something I absolutely love.

I would have used pounce, but Democrats already have that one for Republicans, so I decided to use something else.

That seems like a stretch, do you actually believe that?

I don't know about Ted Cruz's dad, did someone die from that? I hope not. Did his ugly wife cause a shooting? I guess that Mexican judge should not have been accused, Trump should have just sought to have him impeached if he did not like his ruling, right?

Incorrect. Trump entered the arena, the media descended on him, he replied in kind (to their horror) and when it became true that their attempted take-down of him as a candidate did not work, they really ramped up their efforts after, and of course he responded in kind. You can pretend it did not happen, but the media essentially admitted it

Given that those circumstances are mutually exclusive to what I am asserting, I am disinclined to chase the red herring. Perhaps you have some gem to show us about the Lincoln assignation too?

I surmise that you all did not understand my statement. I would prefer to nip the misrepresentation of my position early here, I am not suggesting that all political rhetoric began with Trump, so lets not pretend that is the case. I remain.....in my position that the recent escalation of it, started with the media trying to take down Trump in 2016. SO.... as it pertains to the actual thing we are talking about, that being Trump, the current situation started with the media behaviors in 2016. I am going to now sit back, and wait to see what you now apply to me in terms of intent on this, where you attempt to take it, with some genuine vorfreude......

It did in fact start with Trump, my words are perhaps less valid to you than those of the media.....hence my usage of links substantiated my position. You need not challenge me, I am reiterating that which has already been established, but others.... as indicated....through sources....above.

It did in fact start with Trump. Back then they thought they could manipulate viewers with negativity as they had always done toward Republican candidates, but only wound up helping him Trump’s coverage during the general election was more negative than Clinton’s in 2016, running 77 percent negative to 23 percent positive. They thought they could help Clinton, but all they did was give the Donald free exposure to a big audience. And they admitted as much after Then they decided to take it to 11, because no politician should ever be able to defend themselves against the media, in their opinion....

I doubt he could do worse a second time. He likely would benefit from another one. I think he should at least consider it.

All of you.....are missing a really good opportunity here to use Start Wars to make light of this situation, and it shows our decline as a forearm

1. It is extremely easy to attack Trump’s policies and outcomes; they are dreadful and we do it all the time. - I am not familiar with attacking his policies, have not noticed that from MSM - His policies were not perfect, no policy will be, but they served the American people better than anything the Democrats have done 2. While a few liberal types have used unfortunate rhetoric that promotes violence, they are overwhelmed by the amount of conservatives who do so, particularly Donald Trump. - The rhetoric began with Trump, well it began with his emergence to a legitimate candidate, and the Democrat/Media leaping into action to disparage him - Later when he replied in kind came the inevitable recoiling and astonishment that he would dare do it back - And then the Democrats/Media became the guardians of rhetoric, at how horrible Trump behaved....while they continued to do it themselves 3. We can get into a more detailed discussion of the effectiveness of liberal policies vs conservative policies later. You will lose that argument as your position is extremely wrong. - No policy is perfect, but Democrat policies are just horrible......destructive and unkind

wow

I get that, it is difficult to attack his policies and outcomes, so they attack him personally; he is not exactly likable, so in part I concede its perhaps a reasonable tactic. The problem for liberals is outcomes. Their policies are predicated on fantasy, and as a result deliver less than preferred outcomes. This removes their ability to trot out the results. So they engage in rhetoric to portray Trump as "bad". It didn't work. So they ramp it up, still didn't work. They were always bound to bring their rhetoric to this farcical and radical level, it was their only real tactic, and they just kept making ever more ridiculous claims.... they became that which they professed to oppose.

Oh, gotcha, well since his counterpart shared in the behavior and someone tried to assassinate Trump.....you apparently hate everyone

I don't, but then again I don't frequent twitter. In what little of have seen of the platform is roughly the lunch table full of mean girls in middle school.....I did not derive any value from it, so I don't participate. If it is your intention to suggest that mean tweets are something we need to end, well, that would seem to be the end of the platform. Or....are you suggesting that all violence comes from twitter?

Well, how could we suggest that rehetoric is not a driver given what we have seen? Now, I am not suggesting that the Democrats set out to create this outcome and action......that would be out of bounds......

I think we should be thankful. The examples we have with the BLM riots and threats toward SCOTUS etc.... and yet we see nothing burning, no riots, no marching...none of the things we might expect. I see this as a good. Moreover, I give credit to the liberal media that has performed so viciously toward Trump.....they have done a very good job policing themselves, even shutting down their morning joe folks.... I hope the media too learns from this, I hope what we are observing is their own self-awakening.

Irony. You are the example of hypocrisy.

That's it? You skipped recess to deliver that zinger?

Perhaps. I think Jan 6th would be a useful weapon here. I mean, lets be honest about it. Clearly rhetoric is an issue, the Democrats just gave us a perfect example of how rhetoric can lead to violence....so they should absolutely be leveraging that as a priority, and then abortion. Not sure about climate change.

And?

Oh you are, that was not coming across well; fantastic. Instead of misrepresenting what I said, you should consider depicting me accurately, I mean, people can read and clearly see what you are suggesting about me is not true. And later, if I change my mind on something else, that is being an adult. Maybe you were taught to never admit when you are wrong, but that is what adults do. Now would be the time to point to the deficiencies of your ideological masters who implemented the thing they said was so dangeroud.

Yep, your point?

Not a tactic, but I think your move to dilute one side here might be misplaced, so reminding you that those who were so adamant Jan 6th was inspired by rhetoric, sure had no issue using it....almost as if they did not believe their admonishment of it was true....like me....and when it arose that it was true, they reacted in a way which suggests that they too now understand it better.