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This. You need the most effective leader, not one who seems nice. When Trump was in office he was supremely effective, more so than I would have anticipated; I was delighted. Plus....the media excoriated him daily, I mean they went after him with reckless abandon.....so I was getting policy that made my life better AND the media had my back covered IN FULL. IT was the best possible combination. The curent solution helps no one, and the majority of the media just protects the President.... its a bad feeling. I would like to have people who think Trump is a bad leader serve under someone like him in the military (as I have) and then serve under someone like Biden (as I have). Because when you are in a combat unit....you will NEVER want a Biden.....EVER.....

It might be. I would have to chat with people for some length of time to consider that conclusion. Objecting to something does not immediately equate to abolute opposition. I surmise that it can be found where any objection is automatically equated to total opposition. It's a kind of absolutism that I struggle to be patient with. My perceotion around it is a little different. I think there are folks who are just tired of being villainized for thinking differently, and when it arises that they can poke at the folks who villianize they do it. I know I duvvumb to it on occasion. With Disney you have this company built on good and wholesome values, that suddenly came out wagging its finger and embracing really spectral stuff. It boils down to the kids. Once all this started reaching the kids the parents were not going to sit back. The "movement" went too far.

I found his leadership to be more than good. Humanity does not put food on my table, good policy that does not devalue my money does. Trump served ME and the people of THIS nation. MY president will fight for ME, and that means through the balance of power established by our Republic as well..... Democracy is what put him in office, it was what came after that perverts Democracy. Here is the important divergence for you and I.......IF....it were now be true that President Biden were treated as Trump was, I would STILL object....but you would only start. Because your position is not one of integrity, YOUR position ebbs and flows based on your emotional response to the PERSON. This is deeply flawed.

Disney can do as they please. If they want to put out movies that have an emphasis on social issues, have at it. My position is from that of investor. I wont invest in a company that returns less on my investment than elsewhere. Their filing was something I predicted some time ago, and that is why I ended my investment in them. So their apologizing to their investors like this falls flat for me. Investors trusted them to honor their duty, and they did something else.

And then that stupid cvvnt Wasserman.....using rape as a correlation to justifying the censorship of political discourse? We need to get rid of all these people

Really Scary Stuff Watching an elected official......defend censorship like that......what.....the....fock......

Understood. Social Justice has been part of businesses for decades now. I think the "change" might be the militancy of it. Normal every day people will object to such manuevers.

Agree on all your points. I would just add, this has nothing to do with the law. This has everything to do with limiting the ability of Trump to be a viable candidate. Whether that be by silencing him, sequestering him to a court room or outright convicting him where ever possible to both denigrate him and perhaps eliminate his ability to be a candidate. They know full well that this is overturned on appeal. They also know that the only way this will be reported is that it happened. This is pure political corruption right in our faces....without any restraint or even attempt to hide it. This is a "fock you" to every citizen..... and a warning to candidates.....

So do here concerns then make her transphobic, islamaphobic....right wing....? What is her label for straying from Liberal religious edicts?

I am not sure any of this matters. This was all information available from early on. I submit this is less about the potential violation of the law so much as some personal vendetta from the judge and others involved. I know very well that most of our members here beleive fervently that they should be able to decide what ever value they want for real estate and get it, regardless of the outcomes for others. But in this instance, the government in criminalizing that activity.

Good riddance. Glad to see Congress do something useful for a change.

I am crzy, in your opinion, because I do not follow along with your notional perceptions. It's an immature way to disagree, but it does not dominate your behaviors the way for say MDC or others. You seem to have good character traits, but like the rest of us will give in to your lesser angels.

But....its crazy.....that the US government also knew.....right?

White liberals really need to help these folks understand how to be better victims

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” ~ George Washington Recall that our founders feared government, and intially the central government was weak by design. Right now we see the beaurocracy holding too much power, and people continue to invest in government as a "solution" Government is NOT A SOLUTION....they make everything take longer, cost more and be of lower quality. Government should be minimally used, only for basic services.

Not you of course, but there is no shortage of folks who resort to the ad hominem as a first-move when their ideology is challenged. It not so different from the Muslims calling others Infidels...

You should prepare to receive your label sir

There is no actual racism to be found....but a couple of generations have been indoctrinated to find it...see it...everywhere....so what happens when your indoctrination runs short of material? You make it up.....

Oh I agree.....with you here.... but I was responding to one of those members who will laugh off these assertions when I make them as if "I" am crazy. I hope that what eventually emerges is an appreciate for, and healthy fear of, our government and others. Because any notion that they are "good" should be dispelled.... Government is a necessary evil that we should view warily and work diligently to limit....not empower.

I have always viewed the apology tactic as some kind of admonishment manuever rather than an actual request for an apology....which is usually not accepted when provided...so I dont bother when asked.... if I am in the wrong I will offer it unrequested, asking for it means you will not get it from me....because the ask is not genuine IMHO

Agree. Typically a problem is not a univariate one. I am confident there are a range of issues that led to it...but please note.....that is not what THEY said...... and that distinction is important. If we are to take them at their word, then they are telling us "we face risks relating to misalignment with public and consumer tastes and preferences for entertainment, travel and consumer products." I applaud their admission. As an investor I would expect nothing less. Now, this admission indicates then are at least NOW aware of the concern that investors, and notably some members here, have been voicing for some time. I would expect the leadership of a company to be as aware and knowledgable as the rest of us....at a minumum.....and avoid this issue entirely. I hope they now foment a more appropriate balance between pet projects around the farcical social justice nonsense and fiduciary duty to share holders.

It is part and parcel of the religious nature of modern liberalism. The only allowable behavior is total submission and concurrence. You cannot say, "I agree, but i also think there is some nuance" that is not permissable. You either comply in full or you will be held to account. Now.....if it should arise that the Liberals are cornered....caught in their own web.....THEN you need to accept nuance.... Liberalism today is NEVER allowing that you might be wrong.....

So it turns out that Israel did know, as did the USA.....after all.....once again, we move from "you are crazy", "right wing conspiracy" and into....oh sh!t, its real..... Rink

The dilemma, in trying to mediate their message for them, is that it still comes back to them. Their errors with regard to this pattern should concern an investor regardless of the company involved. The expectation is that corporate leadership is positioning the company to be not merely successful, but as profitable as possible within the legal framework. People hand over their money to them as investors under this understanding. Disney did not follow through on their duty. If the movies were expensive it was incumbent upon them to assess the product and ensure it would generate a suitable return. The movie business is tough to be sure, they have many losses and some big wins. Disney had an enviable formula that saw them making pretty good money. Disney forsook that formula to jump into the social justice realm. Had this been done in a profitable way, then great! But their performance is now far too disconnected from historical norms for them, it is clear (as they plainly admit) that they did not do a good job in balancing this. I saw it coming years ago and divested. Until they show me they are willing to run it properly, why would I invest in them if I can do better elsewhere? I want a company that honors MY values.....when I invest i expect to make money.....