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Why cant I assume that if Republicans vote against it that they are afraid of it because they are probably involved in doing the act?

I might regret this, but I am going to assume you actually want to talk about GDP and growth; if I seem apprehensive its only because you typically dont really care, you just want to make some irrelevant point..... 3.0% is solid by most standards since it does exceed the average consensus forecasts of around 2.4% and outpaces the first quarter’s decline . With consumer spending at about a 1.4% rate being a positive, unlike the stalling seen in Q1 . That being said , underlying growth is weak since we can reasonably attribute some of the progress to the drop in imports, which mechanically boosts GDP because imports count negatively in the calculation so if we exclude it, domestic demand is sluggish. This adds up given the interest rates are being held high, which impedes domestic demand, notably in the housing sector in which one could reasonably assert that sector itself is in a "recession". If we then look at real final sales to private domestic purchaser at like 1.2% in Q2, its the slowest over the last two years. This also makes sense when considering the interest rates and the government is no longer handing out money. If we decide to then average the two quarters, the economy expanded at only about 1.2%–1.3%annualized through the first half of 2025, slower than growth rates in 2024 which was something like 2.8%. Some even think the real domestic growth rate, stripping out trade distortions, closer to 0.5% annualized for Q2 . Still, 3.0% growth is a robust quarter-to-quarter bounce The Federal Reserve is holding interest rates steady at 4.25%–4.5%, and suggesting rate cuts may only begin in September if inflation stabilizes. Apparently the Fed does not see it as weak as some do.....Suggesting the distinction between government pushed money (Biden) and supply side future (Trump) Bottom line, what Trump is doing to revise the economics is focking awesome, the important thing will be having it shown etearly in Q4 because we really want to spend 2026 highlighting everthing liberals have been saying, and then putting it next to that stellar performance as the Fed knows and sees is coming.

Then by extension.....we can assume all of those people are afraid of it, and then further by extension.....that there is something to be discovered..... Its like taking the 5th when you want to avoid culpability....

I know you have no idea, and that is fine Just know that you are never completely useless if you can at least serve as a bad example, a warning if you will, for others. Its all good, lash out to your hearts content. In fact, be as vocal and present as possible. Juxtaposing your insistence that things are bad when they are improving, against last years attempt to say thing were good when they were not, just really brings the point home.

Please do present anything you might find that can feed your bias, by all means. I already accept there are no perfect solutions, I am not going to pretend there is not some give and take with any solution, so only denigrating it and ignoring the benefit is further demonstration that your opinion cannot be trusted. But I get that you need to feed that thing inside of you that needs to hate. And that addiction supersedes any notion of benefit to the wider society, its a liberal thing.....

Everyone has bias. Mine is against liberals, because they hurt people. Similarly, i have a bias against rapists, pedophiles and murders. So by all means, espouse your opinion, because it is more than likely true that the opposite will be the reality; this seems to be reliably the case.

Not joking, if you want to suggest that your "perspective" is somehow equitable or even better than my own, well history suggests your perspective is less.... so pardon me if your assertions come across as questionable at best at this juncture. The problem with parroting the lies of your liberal masters is that eventually the truth comes out, and at best you are seen as incompetent, and at worst just a liar. So, by all means, espouse what ever you have been told to think. Your opposition is more suggestive that things are going well than not....

I would read in to this and suggest that those who voted against it probably are among the corrupt who game the system. Now, I understand that I do not have "proof" and there is no indictment or conviction....but in this instance I infer that liberals will agree with me......since the politics are amenable to them

Thanks for posting but you need to understand that liberals elevate their hate for the man over any benefit to the nation. Its great news to be sure, but dont let the hate from leftists dim the good feelings everyone should have.

I really do not understand these people. It makes no sense. it is clear that this stupidity is not politically useful, yet these retards continue to chase it as if it were. My god, how can these people be so just....just so focking stupid???

Welcome back Burt

It wasnt hard at all, since...its something I have already stated. You do not admit when you are wrong, and that is your problem. Pollution is bad. Pretending that humans are THE cause of climate change is just inane. Further, convincing yourself that human can control the climate is just narcissistic. But billionaires need to eat too, so suckle at the teat of those manipulating the markets to their advantage if you desire. The world still needs mindless sycophants.

Its not a horrible strawman you tried, but ultimately its just worthless. Hating that this nation is doing better now is unhealthy.

My rebuttal is your contrived concerns dont matter. it was a failed attempt to spin a big win in a negative light that even the partisans at CNN and MSDNC arent trying. My rebuttal is that you allow your hatred for the man to pollute your mind so much, you make up irrelevant issues to feed that hate. Again, never go full retard.

No, lying about what I said isnt going to work.....sorry.....maybe try lying toward someone else later or something to salve your hurt. You stand out among the economically illiterate here, Tim is sorta silly, some of the others are obtuse....you are more....virulently stupid in spite of yourself....so your opinion is still useful, if only as an example of what not to think. Hey, is the tariff driven recession in the forum with is right now? Gutter....never go full retard dood....

If the only thing you can come up with is nonbinding, I can live with that....but it really is funny that your ideological masters have finally admitted the truth, but here you are trying to tow the line. Based on your history, if you told us to NOT invest in something, that is a clear indicator to pour money into it. You have been consistently wrong, and shown no real economic acumen. In fact, your clear opposition to this outcome is a confirmation that it is solid, beyond that provided by all the others who have now flipped...

I give you credit for trying. It is not easy to take a win this big and try to misrepresent it to be negative. But look at you....gaslighting like a pro.... when even CNN admits it was good....and when you have CNN and MSDNC admitting it was good, maybe you are just swimming against the tide brother.... If you spend all your time pretending, the real world will pass you by

Another strawman, that sure didnt take long. Of course pollution is bad. So that little tactic wont work, but then again trying to pretend I said something I did not, well, that is part and parce for you. For someone like you, or really ay liberal, to lament someone else not being able to admit they are wrong is rather brash....more than projection its a serious lack of self awareness.

Non sequitor

I m sure you are. Are you still wondering if inflation was real last year? What about the laptop, was that real? Hey, was russian collusion real? Are we in that recession yet? If it should arise that I find your opinion is worthless, just understand that there are reasons....

Oh, with regard to the outcome of the EU negotiations, just another win for us, a master class in doing things democrats said could not be done. Well, THEY could never do it....

Pretending away your strawman does not impress me, own it, you will undoubtedly use it again soon. Always question any "authority". dont be so trusting

Your strawman aside, never abandon your sense of curiosity or assume that credentialed people cannot be questioned or challenged.

What? What the fock are you talking about? There are about 17 nations we trade with that this still needs to be done, we are not done yet, you moron..... OMFG, you should really say this sh!t in your head before typing it....

To be fair, we have not yet enjoyed all the benefits tariffs will bring, right now we are only observing the tremendous revenue gain while inflation remains under control. There is actually a much larger benefit down the road for employment and with it tax revenues. But there is a run on that, you see... employment rising DOES actually have a formidable inflationary impact, unlike tariffs.... So his masterclass of deal making, securing better outcomes for this nation is still under way, questioned answered.....