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We have to start somewhere, just going out randomly with no confinement on pursuit is too broad, I prefer to narrow where possible. I think ICE should take the lead. The problem will be certain localities. I do wonder, and have some concern about, what happens if there is a standoff between ICE and local law enforcement. We have already observed the deference to criminals in some localities, as well as some local elected officials indicating they will not cooperate. So what happens when ICE tries to apprehend rapists and murderers enjoying the protections of local Democrat politicians? This to me seems dangerous.

Incorrect. As those on the right have clearly outlined, legal immigration is supported, illegal is not. This lie that it is "ethnicity" is simple not going to work anymore. We are done with it. You can trot it out and try that one to your hearts content. So, either come up with a way to debate it on the merits, and end the identity politics nonsense, or continue to watch your ideological opponents secure power, denying you access to ANY of your platform desires. Up to you.

Right, not knowing is a common theme with you. Your uninformed positions are reliably wrong.

You will have to explain your point, I am not observing what you appear to be suggesting, an frankly, am not entirely sure what your suggestion is here...

If you prefer to be childish, that's on you. I was hoping for more here, but alas, you fall back into childish antics. As to the health of the Republican party, I am rather satisfied with it. Holding the House, Senate, SCOTUS and White House is healthy enough for me. I submit, as do most of those responding to their behavior, that they is a self-serving action on their part. They used the lies, and I do beleive they knew these things were lies, to generate viewers, now they want to save themselves as they writing is on the wall. There are positions the Turks hold that I agree with and things I do not agree with, this is also true for Trump. I posted the video in response to your calling out of this position as being on the right, when in fact its a position clearly being shared by more than those on "the right". It would seem that it will not matter from where the logic arises, you will simply oppose it out of hand, all good. But you should know that its time to stop that.

Awww, well, thanks sport. Hey, by the way, which assault rifle would you prefer for urban insertion and clearing, asking for a firend.

Lefties then : The laptop is Russian propaganda, its not real. Lefties today; Someone accused someone else, burn him! Yeah, we know how you all roll. Don't expect us to get all excited when you trot out the tired all "lets find a way to ding someone and take them down" tactic. We have seen this move, unimpressed.

I think we probably have common ground on "criminals" with some potential nuance. I look at the surge after Biden tool office and I see those migrants as already knowing very well that they were doing something illegal, they have no excuses and should be high on the list. JMHO IF they have children, they can either take them along or leave them behind as they choose. Using children as a hedge for their illegal activity wont work here. I wont allow it to be a tool against what is right.

Agree. How many times have we observed the indoctrinated parroting some nonsense from their ideological masters that they cannot answer to? Ask them what makes a rifle an "assault" rifle and they really cannot tell you, or what they say is obviously false, to anyone who has ever had a weapon they used in combat.

If you prefer to be childish, that's on you. I was hoping for more here, but alas, you fall back into childish antics. You should care about people moving away, there are some good ideas on the left that are useful, and we need a healthy Democrat party free of the radicals for a health political landscape and a balancing of the needs of people. Please reconsider the Turks, they are sometimes a little too left....but worthy of watching. You should ingest information from multiple sources, to include and perhaps especially from those where you disagree. Now, in this instance they are calling out the truth, but that truth apparently flouts your deeply held beliefs. This is not a negative, it is an opportunity you should use to grow.

There is a further concern. Most deaths are due to handguns, which can fire at commensurate rates with "assault" rifles. So the entire pearl-clutching here is just a farce.

I think we should have stages. Right now I want every criminal, that means those who were criminals before they came here and broke our laws by entering illegally. I also want anyone on a terror watch list. Past that we can start gathering up anyone else who illegally crossed our border, send them home as well. Go after the bulk of those who were allowed to rush in over the last four years. If there are those who have not committed a crime and are productive useful people, allow them to request to stay and evaluate them for it. JMHO

OK, I disagree, but I understand your position on this.

You do not get to decide what they are, you have established for yourself what they are, because you disagree with them. I urge you to reconsider. This is not the way to approach people when you are an adult. This way of thinking is an important factor in why people are moving away from liberalism. While I disagree with them on many things, I also have some common ground with them. You should not dismiss or disregard people because you disagree on something.

Agree. Folks get upset when you extend their logic and it clearly shows the gaps in their wisdom, I think we need to understand how maddening that might be for people. It is useful to show them, as with this example, and help them move away from the over simplistic dogma they are fed, and into a more thoughtful assessment. I hope that is the net result here for the indoctrinated.

When your kid does or says something clearly from muscle memory, it is useful to challenge them a little to ensure they are understanding and not just reacting from some thing they memorized. One of my kids use to behave much like our more liberal brethren here. They know some things, but have never transitions from knowing things to a place where they understand those things. One way we can all improve things in our nation is to help liberals migrate toward wisdom over knowledge.

Right, they are saying something here you disagree with, so they are, "idiots". Let's pause on that for a moment, this way of thinking and behaving, you might want to reconsider.

Legally....right?

I get it. Truth from people with whom you have opposing political views cannot be accepted. I wonder.....though....what if the same argument came from.....The Young Turks?

Correct. Ban guns? Ban knives? They just use something else, over and over. Ban away, you are simply avoiding the problem and ensuring it continues, as you slowly take away rights and liberties from good people.

Of course not, this is the same tired old tactic they used against others, such as Kavanaugh. There is so much more to hate about Gaetz without this silly stuff, but liberals are going to do this almost as if breathing. Fine by me.....the fock do I care. Although, I do find it fascinating that these accusers are to be believed, whereas the Biden accusers are not. But lets table that for a moment. Liberals are over playing this. Save this stuff for the others. They can prevent Gaetz with out it, and it just makes them look silly. He has the most punchable face in government, well maybe Schiff has a worse one but whatever. He is disliked by so many, notably by Republicans, let him wither on the vine which he most assuredly will. Liberals have to stop being so thirsty when it comes to opposing every little Republican thing. Lets assume, for the moment, that I am correct and he withers....hell, lets assume you all are able to take him down with this nonsense.....so what.....Trump gives us someone else who will still route out the DOJ. I have no more interest in the well-being of Gates than I do of any other govy. You are thinking of me as you think, and your strict sychophant devoting to the Democrat people over their position and billet....this is your mistake. I have already won, I have Trump.....so take down Gaetz if that scratches your itch, I will just have someone else take down the partisans in the legal system.

And yet, that is not true.

That might depend on what crime he commits and against whom. Ref: George Zimmerman

France and more

Those two clowns on morning joe folded pretty quick. This suggests, to me, that they knew what they were saying was all lies..... and now they are positioning to save themselves. Cowards. At least that rabid racist Joy Reid is standing by her filth......at least she is not some coward as well as a POS