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Why should it concern me? In the grand scheme of things, I don't care. Israel is defending itself. It is, and always has, done the best it can to avoid civilian casualties, unlike the terrorists that attack Israel who not only kill civilians in Israel but in their own country, and also hide behind civilians. And this is a war. Civilians DO die in war. The USA has been so far removed from a real war for so long that some people like you and Tim seem to have forgotten that fact.

Justin Bieber

Well known he battled drugs and alcohol. RIP.

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I don't know but Biden is going to be responsible if RFK Jr. gets killed: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rfk-jr-trespasser-included-secret-service-risk-assessment-months-before-dhs-denied-protection?intcmp=tw_fnc

They literally banned the word "pigeon" for Squis and then had to tell him to shut the F up when he started reporting people for using the nickname "Kappy" to talk about his butt buddy Colin Kaepernick.

Bruen is a recent ruling, last year IIRC. You should google it.

I'm not worried about getting our violence rate consistent with other first world countries. I don't think we should measure ourselves against anyone. It used to be that the rest of the world measured themselves against the US of A. Not so much anymore and that's sad. But this country was founded and built on the notion of not worrying about other countries and doing what it thought was right. If your goal is live in a first world country with a certain gun violence rate I suggest you find a country that fits your profile and move there. Those countries you speak of lack in other areas such as freedom. We've given up enough of that already. I'm not giving up any more. I mean, let's be realistic. No one on this forum is worried about walking out their front door and getting shot. Take away the inner cities and a few other places and there is almost no gun violence in this country. You gun control people just freak out every time there is an incident. Of course, if the yellow flag laws in Maine had been followed this guy wouldn't have been able to carry out this abhorrent action. And we find in many of these cases that someone dropped the ball. It happens over and over. But you never mention that. You just jump straight to wanting to take everyone's guns.

Take the bet and find out

He never does. It's one of the ways I know he doesn't actually research the topics he so wants to talk about. He just makes sh*t up as he goes along, or references his "black" or "Muslim" friends as proof of his stance.

Yep. It's the only thing that will make it worth my while to go find the links I posted years ago at FBG's that apparently you didn't read or you'd know that election fraud has absolutely altered elections. So, you gonna take my bet or do you not stand behind your own statements?

I don't even know what you mean by "TOTAL gun control." If it has to do with banning sales/etc, as I just mentioned, that would never pass constitutional review.

You say you want intelligent discussion. You should know this is a non-starter even if 99.9% of Americans agreed with it. Because one person sues and it's immediately declared unconstitutional. So why are you even bringing it to the table? IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. Don't waste our time.

Not as impressive as I was expecting. But I'll never forget the time he grabbed a rebound while he was drifting behind the backboard and threw it up from behind and to the side of the backboard, and did all of that in basically one motion. THAT was an amazing shot. And in a meaningful basketball game, not just a playground move. Dude was unreal.

We have gun control. You're advocating for MORE gun control. People such as myself are simply asking for proof it would make a difference. Because every time you all advocate for things that wouldn't have prevented any of these incidents. Tim is up there asking to close the "gun show loophole." But for 10 years I've been asking him for any evidence that anyone who used that loophole had ever committed a crime with the gun they purchased. Guess how many cases he's shown me? ZERO. That doesn't fly.

This is as wrong as a TimsCrotch post. By any objective measure we have ALREADY have low gun violence rates. In fact, our rate of violent crime is lower now than it was in the 60's and 70's despite there being a hell of a lot more guns. The problem with people like you is that ANY violence becomes "too much" and only being willing t accept zero means everyone has to give up all their rights, and we will still never hit zero.

If voting issues don't involve public safety, why were 1000's of people indicted over Jan 6th? Because if those people had faith in our election system they never would have approached the capitol. So yeah, voting issues do involve public safety. As far as there never being enough voter fraud to make a difference, I'll make you a bet. I can PROVE an election was stolen via voter fraud. If I do, you leave this bored forever. Ok? As far as your assertion that the purpose of voter ID laws is to reduce minority voting, again, you're wrong. The Dems tried to get the Georgia voter ID laws that were passed after the least presidential election overturned but couldn't. The result? More AA voters than ever and polling done by UGA showed voters overwhelmingly were happy with their voting experience. In fact, AA's had a better experience than white people according to that poll. So, as usual, data and evidence shows you're wrong.

This guy said he was hearing voices and expressed a desire to shoot up a national guard base or something like that. We don't know the details of why he was released. What I do know is we have been pulling back our support for mental institutions for at least 30 years. Would he have been released in, say, 1980? I don't know. But maybe we need to do more to identify, detain, and diagnose mentally ill people.

We already have background checks. And, as one of your lib buddies posted up above, most incidents occur with legally obtained firearms. I don't see any reason to change the current system regarding that. Because what you want is a national database of all guns and gun owners. And that's not somewhere I'm willing to go. We know how the government abuses any information you give them. Only an idiot would consent to that level of draconian oversight. The voter ID issue is relevant because it shows that for the same overall issue your stance changes depending on whether the issue is one of your pet issues or not. As I've always said, I form my opinions based on data, evidence, and logic. You don't.

No, we don't. And you have never supported the notion that private sales are part of this problem. You want to ban something that has never been a problem. And you're from the camp that says we don't need voter ID because voter fraud isn't a problem. Focking hypocrite.

Have you reviewed Bruen yet?

I cited two sources. Both were relevant and supported my assertion.

If you want to be educated on this topic, you might want to review the SCOTUS ruling in Bruen, which is a recent case and will make it much more difficult to enact gun laws willy nilly.

Oh, so just like questioning the CDC/FDA, now OFFICIAL statistics aren't good enough for you!!! FFS dude, unlike you I posted reputable sources. You'd think people could agree on basic statistics. But here we are. Holy crap.

How is it a troll attempt to say that you look dumb saying unequivocally that you know more than two of our top government organizations that have access to more data and resources than anyone regarding this topic? As far as questioning those institutions, you slobbed their knob for years until recently. You're like the head of the teacher's union who is trying to say NOW that she was always in favor of opening schools when she was the forefront of those pushing to keep them closed for years. Anyone following this topic knows she's full of sh*t, and anyone who has read the Covid thread since it's inception knows you are too.