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This dude... He really believed, guys. So he was dumb enough to believe the covid jab stuff so we should listen to the guy now who has demonstrated already that his critical thinking is suspect. Like how could you believe the jab was stopping covid from spreading when communities that were 90% plus jabbed were still catching cases? We all saw that and knew. When we brought it up, you dug your heels in and stubbornly defended it until it was so obvious the government had no choice but to admit it. Meanwhile, people were coerced into taking it in order to keep their jobs. Your team's response to that was, "you guys are still mad about that?" Yeah, expect us to be mad about that forever. Trust is gained in drops and lost in buckets. Why would anyone trust anything you think? Your track record indicates your opinion is bunk.

Only the lefties would bare witness to the dumb use of money here and applaud it continuing just because OMB. Excellent... a bunch of grifters keeping their grift going, and this dude thinks it's excellent.

And the crackhead was taking pay-for-play checks from China. People who defended/deflected from/or buried the Hunter situation should sit down and shut up.

Competitors to SpaceX... Boeing, Blue Origin, Northrop, BAE, that Richard Branson outfit Virgin Blue or something. I'm not talking about the specific USAID stuff. I'm talking about the idea that he has access to all the payments made to contractors which is what the issue seemed to be. Yeah, if he doesn't have access to competitor's pricing info, then no worries.

I'm going to try this out. I would love to see how our competitors bid. Thanks for the info. If this works out, I'm going to owe you a few casks of whiskey.

ChatGPT putting in some OT!

The reason I ask is that the tech volumes in those bids essentially tell you how they plan to do the job. Every DoD customer I've ever had has been super strict on not disclosing anyone else's plans.

Damn. We must be dumb. Is that really true? Like for real, for real? If so, my business unit is dropping the ball.

You can go have this discussion with chatgpt and it will be the exact same thing as talking to gutter. All he is going to do is ask chatgpt to respond to you. The guy has no thoughts that he doesn't look up. You're essentially just arguing with a bot.

It's a COI because if he has access to payments, he can see what his potential competitors costs are and what they're paying vendors. But at this point, I don't really care. I hope he keeps doing what he's doing.

I don't know if Chelsea got any money or not, but if snopes thinks she didn't get funneled money because USAID didn't write a check for 84 million with "for fraud" in the memo line that she reported on her taxes, they're retarded. This is the Clintons. They'd set up some foundation to funnel the money through and then have some corporation that they have some obfuscated affiliation essentially launder the money so they can claim it's legal. And if all that came to light, snopes and the lefties here would still find a way to say it was all kosher.

It's working. Elon running this mf'er like a start up company. Get in. Disrupt. Fail fast. Iterate. Get the job done... while everyone on the sidelines yells about not following enough bureaucracy.

I can't believe pj tucker is still in the league.

Gutterboy advanced from just googling all his opinions to now having chatgpt write them out. Dude is the ultimate NPC.

I think it's great that we are all thinking about areas to eliminate waste. Good job by OMB here.

To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Elon did make a copy of that data with the intention of mining it first and foremost to identify waste, but we don't know if he would have also had intended to keep it as a data trove that can be mined to help twitter profit or to help influence elections, etc. It would likely be pretty valuable resource for various analytics firms that I'm sure he wouldn't mind distilling down into reports and selling.

I'd be shocked if Elon didn't already have a very high clearance given his affiliation with SpaceX.

I'm an advocate of fixing problems and worrying about following some BS process later.

You'll find waste at DoD contractors, but must of the time it isn't corporate fraud. I mean individuals are committing fraud in that they are charging the government while working from home and I know they're out walking their dog and doing laundry and charging that to the government. Elon should come in and identify those people and they should be fired immediately and hopefully brought up on charges. But the vast majority of waste coming from contractors is from incompetence and not fraud. Big DoD contractors like Boeing, Lockheed, Northrop, Raytheon... all of these companies are full of some of the crappiest workers you've ever seen. And the culture is that it doesn't matter if you screw up. You'll just get more money to fix your screw up. If Elon can come in and force a twitter like purge where they cut a blanket 25%, that's instant savings to the government.

I said let's do it.

Are you talking about this? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musks-doge-agents-access-sensitive-opm-personnel-data-washington-post-reports-2025-02-06/ If so, if that data is considered to be either Confidential, Secret or Top Secret. Trump could grant Elon and his team appropriate clearances, and given that they need the data to do their job, they have demonstrable need-to-know and therefore should have access to the data. Now if he downloaded data that is classified to a private server Hillary style, that is a violation and he would be subject to an investigation and the data would need to be contained, the server likely wiped, and any other servers, or hard drives would need to be wiped, but that in general would be a slap on the wrist type thing.

That would also be against the law. Not only is that money already allocated, the overcharging in many cases comes from specific laws that need to be followed, ironically, to keep people from committing fraud. But that's a good idea. We should do that. DCMA already audits defense contractors. So that data is there. And Elon basically set the model of how to do this stuff with SpaceX. I toured their facilities. If a government stipulated process doesn't make sense, they just don't follow it. He should definitely force the big DoD contractors to do that.

Okay, man. Let's start at the top since everything below it flows from that. What data was stolen?

These guys want to create a committee to talk about getting work done instead of applauding the guy who rolled up his sleeves and is just getting work done. This some corporate middle manager sh¡t if I've ever seen it.

You guys ever try to change something at work? This conversation reminds me of that. It's always a bunch of made up reasons why something won't work. All because they just don't won't it done. Because when you want to pull in that direction you talk about ways to help make it happen. Why on earth would anybody be against not wasting\stealing money? And from the looks of some of these line items coming out, we're clearly either bribing people or people are stealing it. Why aren't we all cheering this? Even if it's a drop in the bucket, it can be the pilot for something more impactful. Even if the president doesn't have the authority to pull funding, we should be able to trigger a review and get the funding held and reallocated. It's just amazing to me that because OMB is involved we don't want to do something that is so obviously moving in the right direction.