WhiteWonder

Masters Final 1. Pat -11 (-7, -4, E) *10 2. Cloaca -4 (-4, -4, +4) *8 3. Lager E (-11, -2, +13) *6 4. Alias +2 (E, E, +2) *4 5. Fumble +7 (-1, +4, +4) *3 6. Edjr +7 (+1, +2, +4) *2 7. Wonder +8 (-2, +3, +7) *1 8. Dain +12 (+4, +4, +4) 9. Jerry +14 (+1, +6, +7) Season Standings 1. Pat (29) 2. Cloaca (25) 3. Lager (23) 4. Wonder (17) 5. Alias (17) 6. Fumble (12) 7. Edjr (11) 8. Jerry (9) 9. Dain (7)

Actually, I didn't quote you because I don't care what you said. I didn't read what you said about Rahm. I know you won't believe me but my initial intention was to post about LIV/PGA in our Edex thread (the one you're not a part of yet popped into anyway to give your 2 cents on someone's draft picks lol) I saw the Saudi Golf thread on the front page and felt it was better to post in here. You literally argue anything and everything in sports threads... i'm pretty sure you were arguing with me about Justin Fields even though we were saying the same thing but you were hung up on a sentence you didn't understand. Now that I am reading what you're saying about Rahm specifically, I don't disagree with you.... I think we have even discussed this before (the idea of LIV guys complaining). Although I do believe that Rahm mentioned something about wanting to try to reshape or help shape things in his initial presser after signing. Not 100% sure on that.

If I recall, the league was formed, THEN the PGA in an effort to deter players from joining, implemented their bans. Players who signed with LIV knew the consequences of those bans... at least most of them. Maybe not the very first wave. I dont believe OWGR body ever stated no world ranking points right off the bat. It was always known that LIV would need to apply for points, like any other tour. I think at some point last year, during LIV second season, the application was denied.

I'm just able to step back and analyze the situation without getting bent out of shape over "the state of golf". I watch PGA. I have watched a little bit of LIV here and there but I will always default to PGA. It's what I grew up watching. I'd prefer if none of this ever happened but I'm also willing to admit that LIV did a great job exposing the flaws of the PGA. I just laugh at the anti LIV crew who all sound like Bandel Chamblee ... it's a vicious attack on the sport

Masters week brought the entire PGA/LIV thing back freshly to my mind. My elderly grandmother who I watched part of yesterday's round with saying... "I thought these guys that left were not allowed to play"... I had to explain to her that the only one banning players, in the entire sport of golf, is the PGA Tour. They lobbied to have the majors ban them too but unfortunately, each major has it's own governing body. She went on to ask why they would be allowed to play if they chose to leave... I again explained that the Masters doesn't care what the PGA Tour says or does. Golfers play on different tours all over the world. That's what happens when you get your feelers hurt and get upset that you're not the only game in town anymore. .... Yet many people only want to point to LIV players and call them the ones bitching and moaning. In some cases, they are. In some cases they shouldn't be because they made their decision, while being aware of the childish reaction from the PGA... But in some cases it's justified. If the PGA can bitch and moan, LIV players probably have at least some right to complain in terms of being banned from events which is fairly unprecedented in the sport of golf. Also had a friend bring up the tired "history and prestige" argument again. As if any brand new league in any sport could possibly have any history associated with it. I pointed to the Fedex cup, which no one liked when the PGA first introduced it and now it is probably up there in the top 10 most desirable titles a golfer can capture. My father, who I also watched most of Saturday and Sunday with likes to get on my nerves and say those guys shouldn't even be there. We've argued back and forth and I think he realizes my arguments are stronger so he defaults to making comments about them playing 3 rounds and wearing shorts. At this point I think the only thing PGA die hards can cling to is the Saudi Money issue. Totally agree. But Norman has wanted to create a golf league for a long time and the PGA always squashed it. It was going to take big $$$ to ever get it off the ground. All I hate is the fact that the best in the world are not all playing together more often. I wish the PGA had been proactive versus reactive. I still believe contracting players would have solved a lot of issues. 2 LIV Golfers were in the top 10 (3 in the top 12 and 7 made the cut out of 60... which is reasonable compared to the size of each league).. I am sure the PGA was very happy that Sunday's battle was between 4 PGA guys after Brooks and Phil finished t2 last year and then Rahm left. i know TLDR

I have to dig up the pre season discussion thread and hope that a breakdown was decided on for the majors. I believe it is slightly different than regular events. something like 10,8,6,5,4,3,2,1,0

Congrats Pat

I’m sure your son will always cherish that masters themed 1st bday bring back digby

Me. Wasn’t talking bad about him just felt like he was quickly thrust into first round pick status in our drafts based on how he did in the “silly season” of pga. He’s clearly got immense talent.

Good lord. I’m somehow pushing for first pick in the next event ill take it

+5, +5, +6, +6, +6 Disgusting I pumped myself up thinking some of my early guys like fatsuyama and theegala could work back toward even

I feel very edjr-ish today. My players struggling to move up is making the entire event not enjoyable despite having 6 make the cut Especially watching Ryan Fox play well who was on my short list for final pick

Cloaca does an excellent job of just letting the draft fall to him and taking talent regardless of current form. @bostonlager i have to head out soon to some off broadway show I got roped into attending, so won't be able to help add any more scores today

bubba just isnt good anymore. he actually was very bummed not to be able to play in the PNC apparently, even though he knew the choice he was making. I don't think he doesn't care, exactly. DJ, absolutely.

not that he played well but i could have swore someone drafted keegan bradley. i feel like he was on my list and i mentally crossed him off as drafted

He never would have made it past me twice but looks like I just should have picked Harman like I swore I would do on Sunday of the players

Do we still have the thread where I can go rant about Japsuyama?

Swallowing was always your forte sorry to hear bud

haha, I'll delete my comment. I only came here to post it because listen2me popped into our thread to nitpick the Bryson selection. To be fair, he was correct. Bryson was not on my radar because he's never played particularly well here and I think the Masters gods are punishing him for that time he called Augusta a par 68

it sounds like friday-sunday will be fairly picturesque. i paid no attention to tee times as I drafted. there are 30 groups. I have 5 in the early wave tomorrow maybe it won't be better but that's my gut feeling

I would assume most (maybe not tiger) would prefer to avoid 40 mph gusting winds in favor of playing 36 in ideal conditions on friday. also I have 1 golfer teeing off after 11:00am tomorrow

so, late/early is the draw to be? assuming the delay tomorrow causes late tee times to not even go off until friday?

Patatas bravas was one of my favorite tapas in both Madrid and Barcelona last year. Pretty much fried chunks of potato with a spicy red sauce and milder white sauce drizzled on top. Im biased because I was just there (and apparently heading back to Barcelona for a few days after a Portugal trip in late September) I could drink beer and eat tapas all day. It's all super inexpensive over there and many of the tapas are larger portions than appetizers at american restaurants. Croquetas, bombas, patatas bravas, spanish omelet, huevos rotos, small sandwiches with iberica ham and cheese on bread or croissant, mini chorizos are my favorites. So many good ones though iberica ham is expensive as fock though. i guess the pigs eat strictly acorns from the region and it really does give the ham its flavor.. delicious.

Not that I care about rankings but I find that surprising. Almost every ranking site I browse for the bigger events, as well as popular statistical models have Matsumama ranked very high. At least in the top 10 if not top 5.

the club HAD a policy... past tense. I know English isn't your first language and reading is your kryptonite but take it easy, little guy.