WhiteWonder

I don't often defend weepaws, but he repeatedly stated Kamara is not someone he is drafting as his RB1, so what are you disagreeing on?

What questions does Hall come with? He proved to be completely over his rookie season injury and performed like a top 5 back (#2 overall, #6 in ppg) with no help under center. Is the question injury? If so I would say that is unfair. He seems no more likely to get hurt than any other RB in the league. CMC missed his share of games in 2020/21 and was labeled injury prone. .... someone like Javonte Williams, who looked to have lost a step post injury, I can understand questioning something like that. Nothing wrong with preferring to go WR, I'm just curious what people think the questions are surrounding Hall, specifically. If you pass on Hall or Robinson with the intent to focus on the next group of RB's, a good amount of the names you listed will not be there for you, imho.

Even with no suspension or continued issues for Rice, I have this gut feeling Brown will still be the 1A. The Chiefs have recently whiffed on speed receivers so I have little interest in Worthy for redraft.

RLM

i thought peefoam was becoming a mailman to walk and stay active

must have been a black lab

2 round snake draft start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 FLX, 1K, 1DST. 7 bench just so we don’t have to be constantly add/dropping I guess scoring could be same as the geek balls trading only allowed if its entire NFL teams QBs represent the NFL teams for waiver purposes Draft on forum, results entered manually ——————————— in the event of 8 owners and drafting 3-4 NFL teams, add 1 more flex to the starting lineup

Could do that too but if you designate the QB as claiming the new team and you and I both want the Panthers after week 1, we both put in a claim for Bryce Young and whoever has higher priority gets him.

Oh and for waivers (if we have them) the order would start as as reverse of draft order with a claim putting you at the back of the line. We can designate QB as the waiver position or something. If I want to claim the Panthers and drop the Packers, I can just claim Bryce Young and drop Jordan Love. And then when free agency opens I must drop all my Packers.

I think you need either a second running back or a second flex like the geek ball league hold the draft in a thread here like edex and then whoever sets up the league on ESPN can manually enter the off-line draft results. You can enter any players for the rosters. It doesn’t really matter… so when Ed takes the Panthers first overall and you go to enter his roster, just fill it up with Panthers. Everyone is going to be adjusting based on their available free agents anyway.

i saw @Jim Mora was looking to trade. I made him an offer but i dont think hes even seen it as it timed out after 10 days. I proposed it again if he sees this.

might be revisionist history but I was almost sure a number of us discussed implementing a strategy to wait on QBs and pair RG3 with Peyton. I know that was my QB duo. At the very least I feel like Peyton was a specific target for us as a team.

I am in no matter what because it's very low maintenance. So whatever you guys decide in terms of number of owners and number of draft rounds is fine with me. i dont care if we have all teams owned or enough teams to make waivers viable. I'm in.

oh, I'm not suggesting we would have the same problem, and it was easily squashed in that league anyway. How often do trades actually happen in a regular league. I highly doubt any happen here

I think we have been in the golden age of wideouts for a few years now. The info/stats are not disputable but I think they can be used to support different strategies. While many people would use this to say load up on WR, I can just as easily see the argument that getting one of those few "stud RBs" in round 1, while risker picks in general, can give you a decent advantage there while sacrificing very little at the WR position since it is so deep, as illustrated above. For shiits and giggles, Let's say you were in my #4 spot and drafted Hall, Adams, Harrison, Diggs (lets say I reach for him because MHJ is a rookie and I want another vet). Alternatively, I draft Lamb, Adams, Harrison, Kamara (lets say I like Zamir White but not as my #1 back). Feels like a coin flip to me but in the back of my mind I know there are still more receivers I really like in rounds 5-8 to keep building my depth so I sort of lean toward that CMC/Hall/Bijan/JT grouping as a significant advantage over those late 4th/early 5th RBs.

Thanks for this, Vikes. I am surprised to see I had a podium finish in 2021 and top 5 finishes in 3 out of the last 5 years. It has mainly felt like I have been bottom of the league aside from the year I won.... which was a glorious year with, I believe FFToday taking down the IBL title and V4E winning the IBL individual title.

Dealing with bye weeks is an interesting element. That's what lead to the collusion I mentioned in my first post... one owner drafted 3 teams with the same bye so when that week came along his buddy traded with him which didn't get any scrutiny until they traded back a week later. if you want waivers to come into play then you'll need 10-12 owners with a 2 round draft or 8 owners with a 3 round draft.

looks like you got 3 in - edjr, BL and WW 3 interested - Twinsdad and pimp (plus helltoupee as a new person) 2 not interested plus horsenuts is mia. probably best to just get 8-10 degens and draft 3 or 4 teams.

what democracy?

League altering stuff

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I'm not part of it but I have two friends who are in an 8 team league with more or less that kind of format. 4 round draft for all 32 NFL teams. Rosters are normal size, iirc since free agents are exclusive. No trades unless its trading full rosters Team A trades the Cowboys to Team B for the Bills. I know one year they had an issue where two owners traded during a bye week and then traded back. All teams are owned so they have no waivers but i can't imagine waivers would be used very often even with 12 owners drafting 2 NFL teams. It's fairly low effort since its basically a short draft and then setting a weekly lineup. I'd do it for a low stakes buy in

Welcome @jerryskids

And I dont even think there needs to be a suspension or lingering issues with Rice for Brown to become Mahomes #1 receiver option. I just think it's very telling that the Chiefs continue to try to bring in Hill style players. No one is ever going to be Tyreek, but its obvious they are looking for something specific. Brown seems like a no nonsense player despite the Hollywood nickname. If he builds a rapport with Mahomes, we will see his best season by a wide margin.

My case for Hollywood... in 2021 he had 91/1000/6 playing with Lamar Jackson who despite being a very good player, has never been the type of QB to really support a #1 receiver. He runs and relies on his tight end, he's not Mahomes. Even in 2020, Brown had 58/769/8 and also scored 7 times as a rookie. Even in Arizona, he combined for 118/1280/7 over two seasons while missing 8 games and dealing with pretty poor QB play. Over his 5 NFL seasons, he has averaged 62/729/5 and most people would agree he played with QBs who are not the most accurate passers. Still just 27 years old, I'm not sure he can't become the 1A to Rice's 1B as far as Chiefs WRs go, and thats assuming no suspension for Rice. The Chiefs have been looking for a new Tyreek ever since letting him go. (Hardman, Sky Moore, Toney etc). Brown is the most dynamic guy they have brought in. He is being drafted in the 35-40 range at WR. Well worth the draft capital. Not hard to envision 80/1100/8 (WR16 last year)