WhiteWonder

I mean I guess that could be a reason I just don’t see why it would be. Why would a guy who most people agree would have elevated the offense in 2023, be a cause for concern for potential breece hall owners in 2024? If anything, I think the presence of Rodgers a threat of a passing game should be seen as an extra boost.

Oh, don’t get me wrong. The guy is a turd and a troll. if you obviously don’t like him and think he is an azzhole, why are you responding to him? Doesn’t seem like letting go. just ignore him. I thought you were having a legit back and forth

I mean sure, nothing you said about Rodgers is wrong. But again, hall was RB2 (RB6 ppg) last year without Rodgers in an offense that scored 22 touchdowns. if Rodgers stays healthy it’s reasonable to think the offense scores closer to 40. He can throw a bunch of 1 yard touchdowns and there’s really no reason to think that would keep Hall from being a first round fantasy pick

maybe thats an alias of mine

I did read the complete exchange. Saying he puts up the per game numbers to be an RB1 in fantasy is not the same as saying you intend to draft him as your RB1 for your fantasy team. Both statements can be true without any flip flopping. I believe what weepaws is saying is that based on his ADP, which is what this topic is about, Kamara can be had as an RB2, or even an RB3 but he can perform like an RB1. You can disagree about the performance part but the numbers show he was RB5 in PPR last year.

I will add, it's kind of silly but when I placed the order on their app, no matter which drink I chose, there was an upcharge. Even a standard coke was +10 cents. Just odd.

I had the McD's one last night, I was driving home and it was 9:30. I definitely consume more fast food than I should and I have all the apps, because why not get reward points if i'm going to buy anyway. I saw the $5 meal when I opened the app to see what deals they were offering. I added another medium fries (free with a $1 purchase under their mobile app deals). And the points for the purchase pushed me up to a free breakfast sammich which, I would always prefer real NJ breakfast sammich, but have always enjoyed a mcdonalds sausage egg and cheese. Their app also has 2 large fries free with a 20 piece nuggets (roughly $7 i think) and buy one get one free breakfast sammich offers.

I don't think its any coincidence or surprise that Kamara has "not been the same player" since Drew Brees retired. Brees last season was 2020 when Kamara had 83 receptions, almost 1700 yards and 21 TDs. Drew was a checkdown champion at that point. I think it was encouraging to see Kamara catch 75 balls in 13 games last year with the arrival of Carr. I really dont think we will see double digit TDs again (even combined rush/rec) but as a possibly fantasy RB2 with the potential for 80 receptions and 12-1300 yards, I'm a buyer. Kendre Miller will get more work but if it is Kamara's final season, I don't think they will hesitate to squeeze every drop out of him before they show him the door.

I don't often defend weepaws, but he repeatedly stated Kamara is not someone he is drafting as his RB1, so what are you disagreeing on?

What questions does Hall come with? He proved to be completely over his rookie season injury and performed like a top 5 back (#2 overall, #6 in ppg) with no help under center. Is the question injury? If so I would say that is unfair. He seems no more likely to get hurt than any other RB in the league. CMC missed his share of games in 2020/21 and was labeled injury prone. .... someone like Javonte Williams, who looked to have lost a step post injury, I can understand questioning something like that. Nothing wrong with preferring to go WR, I'm just curious what people think the questions are surrounding Hall, specifically. If you pass on Hall or Robinson with the intent to focus on the next group of RB's, a good amount of the names you listed will not be there for you, imho.

Even with no suspension or continued issues for Rice, I have this gut feeling Brown will still be the 1A. The Chiefs have recently whiffed on speed receivers so I have little interest in Worthy for redraft.

RLM

i thought peefoam was becoming a mailman to walk and stay active

must have been a black lab

2 round snake draft start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 FLX, 1K, 1DST. 7 bench just so we don’t have to be constantly add/dropping I guess scoring could be same as the geek balls trading only allowed if its entire NFL teams QBs represent the NFL teams for waiver purposes Draft on forum, results entered manually ——————————— in the event of 8 owners and drafting 3-4 NFL teams, add 1 more flex to the starting lineup

Could do that too but if you designate the QB as claiming the new team and you and I both want the Panthers after week 1, we both put in a claim for Bryce Young and whoever has higher priority gets him.

Oh and for waivers (if we have them) the order would start as as reverse of draft order with a claim putting you at the back of the line. We can designate QB as the waiver position or something. If I want to claim the Panthers and drop the Packers, I can just claim Bryce Young and drop Jordan Love. And then when free agency opens I must drop all my Packers.

I think you need either a second running back or a second flex like the geek ball league hold the draft in a thread here like edex and then whoever sets up the league on ESPN can manually enter the off-line draft results. You can enter any players for the rosters. It doesn’t really matter… so when Ed takes the Panthers first overall and you go to enter his roster, just fill it up with Panthers. Everyone is going to be adjusting based on their available free agents anyway.

i saw @Jim Mora was looking to trade. I made him an offer but i dont think hes even seen it as it timed out after 10 days. I proposed it again if he sees this.

might be revisionist history but I was almost sure a number of us discussed implementing a strategy to wait on QBs and pair RG3 with Peyton. I know that was my QB duo. At the very least I feel like Peyton was a specific target for us as a team.

I am in no matter what because it's very low maintenance. So whatever you guys decide in terms of number of owners and number of draft rounds is fine with me. i dont care if we have all teams owned or enough teams to make waivers viable. I'm in.

oh, I'm not suggesting we would have the same problem, and it was easily squashed in that league anyway. How often do trades actually happen in a regular league. I highly doubt any happen here

I think we have been in the golden age of wideouts for a few years now. The info/stats are not disputable but I think they can be used to support different strategies. While many people would use this to say load up on WR, I can just as easily see the argument that getting one of those few "stud RBs" in round 1, while risker picks in general, can give you a decent advantage there while sacrificing very little at the WR position since it is so deep, as illustrated above. For shiits and giggles, Let's say you were in my #4 spot and drafted Hall, Adams, Harrison, Diggs (lets say I reach for him because MHJ is a rookie and I want another vet). Alternatively, I draft Lamb, Adams, Harrison, Kamara (lets say I like Zamir White but not as my #1 back). Feels like a coin flip to me but in the back of my mind I know there are still more receivers I really like in rounds 5-8 to keep building my depth so I sort of lean toward that CMC/Hall/Bijan/JT grouping as a significant advantage over those late 4th/early 5th RBs.

Thanks for this, Vikes. I am surprised to see I had a podium finish in 2021 and top 5 finishes in 3 out of the last 5 years. It has mainly felt like I have been bottom of the league aside from the year I won.... which was a glorious year with, I believe FFToday taking down the IBL title and V4E winning the IBL individual title.

Dealing with bye weeks is an interesting element. That's what lead to the collusion I mentioned in my first post... one owner drafted 3 teams with the same bye so when that week came along his buddy traded with him which didn't get any scrutiny until they traded back a week later. if you want waivers to come into play then you'll need 10-12 owners with a 2 round draft or 8 owners with a 3 round draft.