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Is anyone spending a 5th rounder on the guy? Why argue about it. He will go in the 13th round and someone will hope he pans out. If he doesn't, then he gets dropped and is sitting with Bobby Engram on the waiver wire.

possibly ... but he is 5'11" and 200lbs. the only FF worthy back in the league smaller is dunn. not impossible, just not very likely.

Please. Absurd training camp speculation.

What pieces of trash you both are. I hope you get hit by a train.

So you have a different opinion about having sex with male members of the family?

if i played in a 6 team league, i might waive him too, but for those of us who play real fantasy football, he has scored just fine so far. not great, but definitely worth a spot on anyone's roster.

QB/RB flex? are you kidding me? and you would even consider ever starting Brown as a QB/RB flex? how can a QB not outscore scrub RBs? QBs must be completely devalued in your league scoring system.

so you expect him to have one of the best fantasy seasons ever, AND you feel he is overrated. who are these people that think he was going to get 3000 total yardss and 40 TDs? i think you are inventing expectations. people who put him #1 or in the top 3 think he might have a chance at 2000 yards, which is huge by anyones standards. no one thinks he is for sure to get 2000.

thats a joke right? f not, i don't think you know how good 1400 and 5 is. it makes him a low number one or high # 2 back. instead you would gamble that bell gets a few more points, with the risk that he gets a ton less?

congrats everyone, you are all smarter than some guys who don't pay much attention to football or fantasy football. like a bunch of math nerds talking about how stupid the guy is who doesn't know how to divide a polynomial by the square of a prime number.

Jerome?

ok boy racer, who you playing with that portis drops to a mid to late round pick? there like 5 guys in your league?

reggie isn' going to levitate, or wear flubber on his shoes. so they will use him as a receiver in some sets. but plans are plans, when it comes down to it, he will be used if he is successful in gaining yards and he won't be used if he isn't. make your projections, but give me a break on the "reasoning" crap. it's called a guess, and thats cool, but don't pretend it is more than that. and is that really your response regarding sean payton, just read your words from both posts and tell me if you don't smirk a bit.

really. ready for the counter argument? he hasn't played a down in a regular season game yet. so you have no idea. i'm happy you are in love with him and all, but you don't "know" a thing. maybe he ends up being the best running back ever, but right now he is a rookie running back who has 4 rec for 24 yards and 10 car for 66 yards. so outside of the one 44 yard run against the titans, who gave up 240 yds rushing the next week, he has 9 carries for 22 yards. and please allow me to laugh out loud. sean payton, an offensive genious? you mean the guy that was so creative offensively that Jim Fassel had to take over play calling for him 3 years ago. then 2 years in dallas, where he produced a super creatively average team both years.

or you can look at the lack of explosiveness on the 3 or his four carries which resulted in -2 yards and see that 15 carries would extrapolate to 4 times as many negative yardage plays. or even more likely, the outing didn't really show you anything, but an as yet ineffective offense.

I could have saved you some time. Nothing can be "proved" until the season is over. Too bad that didn't come up in your debate, or else you might have been able to spend some time doing something constructive.

"butthead"?

they didn't seem to be hurt much by half a season of mccown and navarro.

so which is true? his touches are limited because he comes out on third downs and passing situations, or he has a high number of carries which might wear him down? i mean, it can't be both.

yep, did so last year, but not sure stategy itself was the reason. last year i was much more comfortable with depth of quality RBs, so I went JJ, Rudi, Mike Anderson, LJ, then filled out the roster with Santana Moss, Terry Glenn, Delhomme, Plumber, McNair, Antonio Bryant, Kevin Curtis, Troupe, Shayne Graham, etc... Moss, Glenn and LJ turned out to be money and all of the other guys played above expectations with the exception of JJ, so my first pick was the worst. This year I would probably go RB/WR or WR/WR depending on who is available, but talent at RB is pretty thin this year, a stud WR may be a better pick in some cases.

maybe the solution is to play in a real league. TD heavy leagues are rediculous. Why not use all of the statistical categories that play into real football. I mean is TJ Duckett more valuable than Anquan Boldin? you can't say CJ is overvalued because no one else is playing by your standards. Thay are counting yardage and receptions. that is why he is being projected as a top 5 receiver. In most balanced scoring systems he was.

true, i love holt also. like i say, any of those guys are great. actually i was fortunate last year to have holt, johnson and boldin in my 14 team league last year and all three were studs. (of course I had Chris Brown and Duckett as my primary backs most of the season). so i can say with certainty, i wouldn't argue with any of those picks.

In our 14 team league last year, one guy had SA and LT2 and Moss and Bledsoe and Tony G, amoung others via a series of trades. He finished out of the money. So even in a huge league where the talent is diluted, I wouldn't overplay it too much. I think most people would expect more for LT2 than he is worth, so it is unlikely you will be able to pull off a trade and not overpay. I would wait until partway through the season and if LT2 has a couple of subpar games, perhaps his owner will get frustrated early and be willing to trade for a reasonable price like happened in our league.

i wish i had two fitzgeralds on my team too obviously arguments can be made for any of these guys. it all should depend on who else is on the board, where you draft, what your scoring system is and who you have already drafted. CJ is a stud receiver, just like the other guys listed. he has led the AFC in receiving 3 years straight (never been done before). over 90 rec in each of those years. in other words consistently high production. now he doesn't score as many touchdowns as some of the other guys, but he doesn't miss games, and he doesn't disapoint. none of those guys are bad picks.

teams do not intentionally try to score fewer points. i am sure edwards will try to improve the defense, but he isn't going to say, "we need to play better d, so lets try not to do so well on offense."