supermike80

Now..that being said...If my wife was drunk, and we ended up getting it on...I don't see that as rape. THAT would be a wild night. And perfectly OK in my book

And I'm telling you that your premise that it was ok then and not now, is inaccurate.

Yeah. no. Not even close. In fact if my friends found out one of us did that, he would hear it from us. You just didn't do that.

Well that's just dumb. There's comedy out there today that is VERY offensive...and I laugh. Because it's comedy. Matt Rife's domestic violence joke that got him in a whole world of trouble, was about the funniest joke he told in that special. Does NOT mean I support domestic violence. Cause I don't. I mean, unless shes asking for it of course.

Agreed. 100%

I'm not sure using a stupid teen movie to bolster this discussion works for me.

I don't know. I mean I knew, then as I do now. You don't "get with" a drunk girl. You don't force yourself on her...ever. So for me, yeah it was the same. I never knew a time where myself, or any of my guy friends, felt differently. I'm struggling to understand where you're going with this.

Believed to be ok maybe..by idiots. And I know ypu're not being argumentative. Guess it's how you are raised. I remember zero conversations with my father about rape, or sexual assault etc. You just learned these things were not OK. Ever

I'm not sure I understand this topic, or Peenie's question. Are you asking me as an "older man" if I thought rape was OK growing up? Cause, no. It isn't, wasn't and never has been

They covered Sunday. But I get your point. Something is just missing from this team. They have grit and resolve which as a Lions fan we haven't see in forever and I think that is clouding our judgment locally of this team. Still good , and enjoying the ride. Just a couple years ago they would have been 3-9 and discussing mock drafts. So this is good. But they are not a superbowl team with that defense.

Non championship bowl games are a joke. Players either opt out, or don't play as "hard" to not risk injury and hurt their NFL chances. Especially on a team like Georgia which is loaded with them. That game will not be a metric of anything

Your point about the QB was spot on. If Alabama went undefeated with the bandleader playing QB, they would be in

After seeing Washington, I am not so sure about that. and anyone can beat anyone in one game. That's why you play a season, to make a case. Which now means nothing.

And their conference. Texas got in. One loss conference champ. Cause it's Texas. Its about the money. And I get that. But any attempt to tell me any team deserves to be there more than FSU after their season is screwy

Sooo..if Alabama doesn't make that miracle catch against Auburn, they should still be in then? Ok gotcha. Records mean zip..Just the eye test

Why is Michigan #1? Their non conference schedule is a joke. So is the entire Big 10, with the exception of Ohio State? How does your dumb azz "eye test" tell you Michigan is #1?

You're the one bringing up the stupid schedule. FSU set up and beat what was perceived to be a good LSU team. The fact that they aren't now is irrevelant. They went out and scheduled tough games.

They're not. And oh by the way, FSU scheduled and BEAT the #5 team in the country then, LSU. But, yeah. let's forget that

TCU won their first game. Huge upset over Michigan. Thats good football

Georgia lost one game, to the now #4 team in the country. And they got shut out? How do they not make it in on this stupid eye test nonsense

So why not OSU over Texas? Why not Georgia over Texas?

I get the argument you're making, but you won't convince me. FSU did everything they were supposed to do, and got shut out. It's wrong. An undefeated conference champion should get in over a one loss team. Period.

They didn't beat up on them. They won by a field goal. I'm not interested in a subjective selection. FSU did everything they should, with a 3rd string QB, and got hosed. You could argue OSU should be in ahead of Texas if you're going to use the stupid eye test. Should Georgia be in over Texas as well? Dumb.

Yes.

Alabama lost to Texas, beat unranked Arkansas by 3. Beat unranked Auburn by 3. Beat unranked Texas A&M by 6. Not that impressive of a resume either.