kmbryant09

This makes my head hurt

1 established WR . . . . . And 1 rookie WR. He's still inaccurate, immature, gets dinged up, and lacks any bit of pocket presence. I really doubt he makes that leap as a top8-10 QB.

It's a Bill Belichick RB who's only track record is fumbling the ball. But Ridley does offer more upside than Benson. I have no problem taking Benson in the 6th-8th rounds. Especially if I've done my job in the first few rounds. The other RB's (Ridley included, but with more upside) available with similar ADP's are basically lottery tickets: -Jonathan Stewart (injured, 2nd RB, 3rd goalline option) -Donald Brown (has sucked his entire career) -Beanie Wells (has sucked his entire career, and may be on the worst offense in the league) -Ben Tate (waiting on an injury to Foster) -GreenEllis (similar situation as Benson, but a much worse offense) You get the point.

Of course I wouldn't bet that, I listed that as his realistic ceiling. The point is, find me another feature-back in an explosive offense that is on the board in the 6th-8th rounds.

OK, so he should be able to match, if not slightly better, Newton's 21 passing touchdowns. Throw in another 4-6 rushing TD's and you are looking at 30 Touchdowns.

Stop. He took as big a hit as he will all season against the 49ers. He completed a 38-yard pass down the right sideline (the side that people said he couldn't throw to). He then bounced back up, finished 10-12, 120 yards and 2 TD's in one quarter of play, against the best defense in the league. I think he'll be fine. Oh, and the game was played outside.

Reggie Wayne/Austin Collie/Coby Fleener/T.Y. Hilton (at least how he's looked so far) is pretty comparable to what Cam Newton dealt with last year, and he put up 35 total TD's. Obviously Newton shattered expectations, but Luck is supposed to be better than Newton

Just to play devil's advocate: -Cincy's offense doesn't even compare to Green Bay's. Benson could easily punch in double-digit TD's simply because of opportunity. -Really lacks any competition in Green Bay. Starks has been a joke, and Green isn't quite 100% yet, and is completely raw/inexperienced. Even if he averages 3.8 ypc, he could still rush for 1,100 yards. -Going back to Cincy vs. GB: Benson will likely face 6, 7 at most defenders in the box. All reports out of GB have been phenomenal, and in his brief appearance in preseason he averaged 6 yards per carry. I wouldn't expect Benson to put up 5.0 ypc, but I see no reason why he couldn't average low-4's. Add all of that up and you could be looking at 260 carries/1,100 yards/10 TD's. That's probably best case scenario, but really not a bad option in the 6th-10th round.

I don't mean that Cutler doesn't know when to tuck & run. But in my opinion, one of the most overlooked characteristics of QB's is how well they "sense" pressure and move WITHIN the pocket. You see it from guys like Manning, Rodgers, and I've even seen it from Luck already. You know who you don't see it from? Bradford, Kevin Kolb, Joe Flacco. Guys that have struggled to take the next step. I'm not suggesting that the only difference between Kolb and Manning is pocket awareness, but I think you get my point. Less pocket awareness = bad footwork = inaccurate throws = low completion % = high INT's, it also = more hits = more injuries.

There's really only 1 odd year, not much of a cycle.

Andrew Luck. Arguably a top10 talent at the QB position before he ever takes an NFL snap (he's THAT pro-ready). Doesn't have great options, but enough to get by (Wayne, Collie, Fleener, and T.Y. Hilton has looked very impressive). Dual-threat. People overlook Luck's athleticism because of how good his arm/smarts are. He has comparable measurables to Cam Newton . His defense sucks. The Colts will try and establish a ball-control, run-first offense. But that doesn't work when your defense will give up 30+ points every game. Luck will be forced to throw 500+ times (maybe closer to 600) when Indianapolis constantly falls behind. Would anyone be completely shocked if Luck threw for 4,000 yards, ran for 400, and accounted for 30 total TD's? That's top 8 numbers. In the 10th round.

Does Cutler have ANY sense of pocket awareness? I know his offensive line is/was horrendous, but I literally cannot remember a single time when Cutler has shifted around the pocket, avoided the rusher, stepped up and fired a strike. (I know, I know, I'm sure it's happened, but I still don't think he has pocket awareness). I could be wrong, but I don't think eliminating the 7-step drop will solve all of Cutler's problems. He still has a horrible OLine, bad pocket presence (in my opinion), is inaccurate at times, gets banged up, and I'm not crazy about his weapons - Marshall is a stud but a headcase, are we really counting on a rookie to be a legitimate #2, because I know Hester isn't. And they still don't have a TE threat. I do think he can have a solid year: 3,800-4,000 yards and 24-28 TD's, but I wouldn't want him over Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Vick/Stafford/Newton/Ryan/Peyton/Eli/Rivers/Romo. And I'd probably favor Big Ben, Schaub, and Luck (!) over Cutler.

I think it varies year to year, which is why leagues shouldn't tinker with it, in my opinion. Some years will have 3-6 surefire studs in the draft, with a bunch of question marks after that. Some years will have 10-15 reliable, #1 guys at the top of the draft before a steep fall off. This year does seem to favor the top of the draft, but for 2 reasons that are specific to 2011-2012: 1. 2011 was the year of the QB. I sincerely doubt we see another handful of 5,000 yard & 40+ TD' passers. 2. All RB's after the first 3 have a ton of question marks. You could honestly take RB's #4-12 and put them in any order. CJ (which CJ do we get), McFadden (health issues), AP (ACL), Murray (health issues), Charles (ACL), Mathews (injury prone), Lynch (1-year wonder), etc. You add all of that up, and you get 6 studs (Brady/Brees/Rodgers/Rice/McCoy/Foster) and a bunch of question marks.

Love Cruz, hate the rest of your WR's. DeSean is a headcase who doesn't catch a lot of balls (PPR), and has an injury prone QB. Hayward-Bay is pretty hit or miss, as is his situation. I don't like Mike Williams, and wouldn't depend on a rookie WR. Also, 3 of your top 4 WR's should be devalued in PPR leagues, which further hurts your squad.

I'd break it down like this: Welker - 100 catches Gronkowski - 70 catches Hernadez - 80 catches Lloyd - 55 catches Branch - 25 catches RB's/other WR's - 60 catches 390 completions for Brady - which is approximately 66% completion on just under 600 passes.

I'm sorry, nobody's floor is 100 catches.

Is your "O" button broken on your keyboard?

See the bold. But he's definitely worth a late, late round flier since he stands a good chance to start at least a few games this year. Just don't draft him as anything more than an RB5 or something.

RB's fall off cliffs very quickly, no matter how talented they are. LT went from stud to dud in 2 years, and out of the league the next year. 3 of the last 4 years Turner has been worked hard into the ground. The other year he got injured. He doesn't catch passes. His backup is known as a receiving back. The team is moving to a no-huddle, pass-happy approach on offense. He's 30 years old. He looks like complete sh!t in preseason. It's not even a matter of hitting the right holes, or breaking the right tackles. He looks like he'd run the 40-yard-dash in about 12 seconds, and couldn't juke his grandmother out. Maybe he's just saving himself I know it's bold to predict Rodgers to outscore Turner, but I'll stick behind it. And when you factor in ADP's, it's a no-brainer who offers the better value. I just predict that Turner won't be productive, at all really.

Yeah, pulling off a play fake takes plenty of skill as a RB

You stated he can't complete a 10-yard pass to his right. That's a laughable statement, just wanted to point that out.

He's completed passes beyond 10 yards to his right. He threw 2 bullets to Stokely and Decker in last weekends game that was 12-15 yards down the field. His wobbly passes are what worry me. From all reports out of camp (which I followed every reporter, daily) said he was throwing the ball well to all parts of the field, left/right/short/deep, with velocity and a tight spiral. The wobbly passes have seemed to creep up in actual games. Then again, most of those wobbly passes are still accurate with adequate velocity. And in his early years, Manning actually threw a bit of a duck, not a pretty spiral. So I'm not really sure what to make of it.

Stupid argument. Don't you realize that a bunch of arm-chair fantasy football managers know Peyton's health better than his teammates (who says he looks 100%), his team (who gave him $96 million), or the Doctors that actually performed the surgery (and have cleared him to play at no further risk). You should know better than that!

Disagree strongly about Turner. Have you seen him play this season? He honestly looks like he's a 40-year-old with bad knees and 30 pounds overweight. He has 11 touches for 25 yards in the preseason - and that's WITH Atlanta's offense looking ridiculous. That doesn't always translate into the regular season. I honestly think J. Rodgers outperforms Turner this year.

I actually logged in this morning with the intention of starting a Lynch thread. In a keeper league, it looks like I'm just going to miss out on my Tier 2 RB's - Murray/AP/Charles/Forte. I don't want to take the risks of Richardson, MJD, or Mathews, which brings me to Lynch... I've never been a fan of his overall talent, although there's no denying his solid performance last year. He's never averaged more than 4.5 ypc in a single season, his production is directly tied to his volume of touches. It's very alarming to me that he had his best season, by far, in a contract season. Is he a prime candidate to pack it in now that he got paid? What about his looming suspension? Will he stay out of trouble, and will the suspension come this year or next - and for how long? On the other hand: He's one of ~10 RB's that are the unquestioned bell cow for his team. As good a bet to get 275 carries as any other RB in his tier (Charles/AP/Murray/Richardson/Mathews/MJD). He's on a team that should be committed to running the football. Seattle has a pretty good OLine. And Seattle's defense should be pretty dominant, keeping the team in a lot of ball games. Has a pretty easy schedule. Besides SF twice, he gets STL (x2), Arizona (x2), GB, Carolina, Minnesota, and Miami. So where would everyone place Lynch compared to Richardson/Mathews/MJD? (ps I get to keep Foster as my #1)