Thomas Jones hurt! Added to PUP list

[Ditka311 0]

Muscle-bound players that don't take a break from working out are very susceptible to muscle injuries.

 

That said, I'd say it's even odds that this pulled hammy is the result of Jones' desire not to toil as Benson's backup.

 

We have a winner.

 

In interviews with him today he was clearly unhappy to be second fiddle to Benson. He said that he was the offense the past couple of years (he was) , he did all that he was told, and never made trouble off the field. I don't think it was about the money/contract. IMO, it is all about respect and the Bears have shown him little.

 

That being said, you don't pay your #1 pick from last year to ride the pine. Was it a wasted pick? Only time will tell if Benson is inferior to Jones. Jones is respected by a lot of players on the team. They like his work ethic, the ability to pass block, etc. Benson hasn't earned anything so that might build some resentment on the team, especially after his holdout last year.

 

On the other side, there are people who think that what we saw of Thomas Jones is the best we will ever see of him. The belief by some is that Benson can do what Jones does and then some. (once he learns to pick up the blitz, that is)

 

so you alienate arguably your most dependable player on offense just because you have an over-hyped and over-paid and unproven second-year rb you need to force into the lineup? nice work, bears. brilliant.

 

Not really fair to call him overhyped yet. Overpaid, well, all rookies are overpaid right off the bat. I am sure Joey Harrington bought many a pianos with his bonus. Rashan Salaam bought himself the finest buddha. Neither has done squat but got paid pretty nicely for it.

[DrJ 0]

oh, and announced benson being the #1.

 

Yep, because he missed camp and was aware that that was what the consequence would be. He's still being given a chance to win his job back based on performance.

 

Esentially, the Bears have done nothing wrong to the guy and his problems are clearly with his contract. A contract that he knowingly signed 1 hour into free agency 2 years ago.

 

Basically, you're just grabbing at any straw that you can, like you always do.

[swamp dog 0]

Yep, because he missed camp and was aware that that was what the consequence would be. He's still being given a chance to win his job back based on performance.

 

Esentially, the Bears have done nothing wrong to the guy and his problems are clearly with his contract. A contract that he knowingly signed 1 hour into free agency 2 years ago.

 

Basically, you're just grabbing at any straw that you can, like you always do.

 

but...i thought it was "voluntary workouts" and that "everyone misses those" and it's "no biggie"?

 

botch job all the way around.

 

So by those standards you'll admit Mike Williams was overhyped and overpaid, right?

 

hey, the lions are making him earn playing time. a free tip for the bears and benson.

[swamp dog 0]

the really, really good news?

 

grossman apparently exited the trainer's room yesterday unscathed!

[DrJ 0]

hey, the lions are making him earn playing time. a free tip for the bears and benson.

 

Were you at the Bears minicamps and know how Benson performed? Link?

 

We all know that Mike simply isn't earning playing time, and has in fact been demoted due to his offseason, the same can't be said for Benson unless you got some sort of link...

[swamp dog 0]

Were you at the Bears minicamps and know how Benson performed? Link?

 

We all know that Mike simply isn't earning playing time, and has in fact been demoted due to his offseason, the same can't be said for Benson unless you got some sort of link...

 

so benson vaults ahead of thomas jones based on attending VOLUNTARY (a word you loved to stress when it was convenient for you) workouts in shorts?

 

let's see, now:

 

1) when people were badmouthing jones for not attending voluntary workouts, bear homers were dismissing the workouts as "voluntary" and "not important" and "something a lot of people miss."

 

2) tj loses his job to benson and the bear homers are like "of course: benson earned it by being there for those very very important offseason workouts!"

 

focking crassic!

 

learn to take as well as give it out, chump. and at least make an attempt not to be a hypocrite. we all know that if calhoun had beaten out jones without a shot being fired this spring you'd be all over it and actually STARTING the focking thread.

 

karma's a bee-atch.

[First National Bastard 0]

So by those standards you'll admit Mike Williams was overhyped and overpaid, right?

 

+1

 

Swampdog is ducking this one hard. The further a monkey climbs up a tree, the more you see of its ass.

[DrJ 0]

so benson vaults ahead of thomas jones based on attending VOLUNTARY (a word you loved to stress when it was convenient for you) workouts in shorts?

 

let's see, now:

 

1) when people were badmouthing jones for not attending voluntary workouts, bear homers were dismissing the workouts as "voluntary" and "not important" and "something a lot of people miss."

 

2) tj loses his job to benson and the bear homers are like "of course: benson earned it by being there for those very very important offseason workouts!"

 

focking crassic!

 

learn to take as well as give it out, chump. and at least make an attempt not to be a hypocrite. we all know that if calhoun had beaten out jones without a shot being fired this spring you'd be all over it and actually STARTING the focking thread.

 

karma's a bee-atch.

 

Shorts really don't matter, because the areas that the Bears wanted Benson to improve in were biltz recognition and pass catching. Do you have a link that suggests that Benson didn't perform well enough in those areas justify it? Didn't think so. But we do have multiple sources telling us that Mike Williams performed poor enough to be demoted.

 

Just can't provide that link, eh? You'd think that with how you demand them from others, you would be able to throw them out there like nothing. I guess we can just assume that as usual, you're just making all of this up.

[swamp dog 0]

+1

 

Swampdog is ducking this one hard. The further a monkey climbs up a tree, the more you see of its ass.

 

we'll know the answer to the mike and benson questions at the end of this year. but mike's not coming in an getting a job handed to him over a veteran who has been producing. that's the big difference in the two situations.

[famousb 11]

that's the big difference in the two situations.

 

and the fact that you can't provide links because you make shiat up...

[swamp dog 0]

Shorts really don't matter, because the areas that the Bears wanted Benson to improve in were biltz recognition and pass catching. Do you have a link that suggests that Benson didn't perform well enough in those areas justify it? Didn't think so. But we do have multiple sources telling us that Mike Williams performed poor enough to be demoted.

 

Just can't provide that link, eh? You'd think that with how you demand them from others, you would be able to throw them out there like nothing. I guess we can just assume that as usual, you're just making all of this up.

 

hey, dipwad, check it out--and this right from a bear beat writer:

 

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=25&p=2&am...2%2f538069.html

 

so tell me, sunshine: how is it that an unproven second year player, a guy struggling to catch the ball in the last mini before training camp, vaults ahead of the proven thomas jones based, on your theory anyway, of PERFORMANCE?

 

o-w-n-e-d

 

and the fact that you can't provide links because you make shiat up...

 

see link above. oh, and then shutup.

 

got me two with one cast.

[SmartassBoiler 0]

hey, the lions are making him earn playing time. a free tip for the bears and benson.

 

So you admit Mike Williams is overhyped and overpaid then?

 

You're seriously retarded if you think the Bears aren't making Benson earn playing time. Just because he's taking snaps on the first day of training camp doesn't mean he's the week 1 starter.

[RamslovaMartzhata 3]

Jones considered Day to Day per Fanball:

 

Bears: Jones considered day-to-day

07/28/06 11:26 AM

THE NEWS

Bears running back Thomas Jones doesn't believe the right hamstring injury he suffered on Thursday morning is serious. "I may not have stretched as much as I should have," he explained to the team's official web site. "It's not serious. I tweaked it. I'm day-to-day." The Bears placed him on the physically-unable-to-perform list on Thursday afternoon.

Our View

Any time that Jones misses will be amplified due to his battle with Cedric Benson for the starting job, but we don't want to blow a little tweak out of proportion. We'll update Jones' status as more news emerges.

[swamp dog 0]

So you admit Mike Williams is overhyped and overpaid then?

 

You're seriously retarded if you think the Bears aren't making Benson earn playing time. Just because he's taking snaps on the first day of training camp doesn't mean he's the week 1 starter.

 

hey, i provided a link. you're simply name calling here.

 

move along.

[famousb 11]

see link above. oh, and then shutup.

 

got me two with one cast.

uh, this still doesn't say anything about your countless, unsupported claims of TJones being out of shape...

 

so own this dipwad...

[DrJ 0]

hey, dipwad, check it out--and this right from a bear beat writer:

 

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=25&p=2&am...2%2f538069.html

 

so tell me, sunshine: how is it that an unproven second year player, a guy struggling to catch the ball in the last mini before training camp, vaults ahead of the proven thomas jones based, on your theory anyway, of PERFORMANCE?

 

o-w-n-e-d

see link above. oh, and then shutup.

 

got me two with one cast.

Since you can't get the story without an account there, you and I both know that link is as bogus as they come.

 

All reports out of training camp indicate Benson is already impressing with his hands. As usual, you got NOTHING and are just making stuff up.

[swamp dog 0]

Since you can't get the story without an account there, you and I both know that link is as bogus as they come.

 

All reports out of training camp indicate Benson is already impressing with his hands. As usual, you got NOTHING and are just making stuff up.

 

lol...lame, inept attempt at face-saving. yeah, the bear homer writer for scout.com--a person who normally paints a pretty pr picture--is a "bogus" source.

 

 

if that's the best you got, you might as well translate this to "double owned."

 

let's see: i give you a link, you continue to live in denial, you claim--unsubstantiated, of course--quite another thing entirely.

 

so we're supposed to listen to you and your opinion--but dismiss ANY link that dares says a negative thing about da bearz!!!

 

and you wonder why bear fans are mocked and ridiculed by the entire country.

[DrJ 0]

lol...lame, inept attempt at face-saving. yeah, the bear homer writer for scout.com--a person who normally paints a pretty pr picture--is a "bogus" source.

if that's the best you got, you might as well translate this to "double owned."

 

There is no context for the statement whatsoever - you can't get to the story! You know it and I know it. Get a real link, where you can actually read the friggin story, Sally.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and believe that the guy that led this team to an 11-5 record last season is making the right call here, and Benson is doing the things they want.

 

Considering you have "In Rod We Trust" plastered to every post, and the guy hasn't a single win in the NFL to his credit - I'd suspect you'd be willing to give Lovie the benefit of the doubt here too.

[swamp dog 0]

uh, this still doesn't say anything about your countless, unsupported claims of TJones being out of shape...

 

so own this dipwad...

 

ah, nice switch, sunshine: that's not what you were talking about above when you stuck your nose in where it didn't belong.

 

so, uh, consider yourself still owned. um, ah, okay?

 

There is no context for the statement whatsoever - you can't get to the story! You know it and I know it. Get a real link, where you can actually read the friggin story, Sally.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and believe that the guy that led this team to an 11-5 record last season is making the right call here, and Benson is doing the things they want.

 

Considering you have "In Rod We Trust" plastered to every post, and the guy hasn't a single win in the NFL to his credit - I'd suspect you'd be willing to give Lovie the benefit of the doubt here too.

 

lol...okay, so now the red herring thing to do is attack sig lines?

 

stop, i'm pissing myself....

 

oh, and this just in: you're still focking owned!

[DrJ 0]

ah, nice switch, sunshine: that's not what you were talking about above when you stuck your nose in where it didn't belong.

 

so, uh, consider yourself still owned. um, ah, okay?

lol...okay, so now the red herring thing to do is attack sig lines?

 

stop, i'm pissing myself....

 

oh, and this just in: you're still focking owned!

 

Nah, it's to attack your lame link. For a guy that demands a link our of everyone for every statement they make, it's pretty surprising that you can't find a single one to back your claims where you can actually read the story.

 

I guess that's par for the course when you've got nothing though.

 

Here's an actual link, where you can get to the entire story:

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines

 

Cedric Benson did more than show the cutting and burst that made him the No. 4 pick of the '05 draft. The kid showed excellent hands swinging out of the backfield too. But his cutback behind Fred Miller's backside sealing block was the run of the day. ... No Thomas Jones put Adrian Peterson in as the No. 2, which is where he was most of last season and showed he belongs on most any roster

 

...

 

There weren't full pads for the practice and the hitting is limited but while many were scurrying around to find out what was up with Thomas Jones not being in the rotation, Cedric Benson was quietly putting on a show, something he didn't have a chance to do last year because of missing camp during contract talks. He drew some "Yeah!" exclamation from fans with his bursts through the line and looked a whole lot like a No. 1 pick.

 

Specifically: He's got sudden speed going north-south, which this offense demands, and he's also got that little jump-cut that James Allen (remember him?) did so well, just too often. Benson explodes forward as soon as he finishes the cut; he knows where the hole is and he's in an awful hurry to get there. The pass protection is still the unknown but the first day running ... mm-hmmm.

 

and another:

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/story.asp?id=211637

 

After Benson’s month-long holdout last season, the Bears were hesitant to expose him to passing situations in which his inexperience and unfamiliarity with pass protection and as a receiver could jeopardize the quarterback.

 

Turner said that’s much less a concern this year.

 

“That’s where he’s probably made his biggest strides in the off-season,” Turner said, “catching the ball, running routes, and also in the protection schemes, knowing who to block. That’s the first thing you have to do. It you have to block, you have to know who to block, and he’s worked hard at it, and (running backs coach) Tim Spencer did a really good job of spending extra time with him going over that phase of the game.

 

“The running part of it, that comes easy.”

 

 

 

Yup, sure sounds like Lovie just handed the guy the job for no reason and Benson isn't earning it in the slightest...

 

Just admit that you have nothing and are full of complete and total BS, and we can move on.

[swamp dog 0]

Nah, it's to attack your lame link. For a guy that demands a link our of everyone for every statement they make, it's pretty surprising that you can't find a single one to back your claims where you can actually read the story.

 

I guess that's par for the course when you've got nothing though.

 

Here's an actual link, where you can get to the entire story:

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines

and another:

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/story.asp?id=211637

Yup, sure sounds like Lovie just handed the guy the job for no reason and Benson isn't earning it in the slightest...

 

Just admit that you have nothing and are full of complete and total BS, and we can move on.

 

1) you chided me, demanding a link that showed benson wasn't doing well with the catching thing

2) i provided the link (and if you go to the bears board and click on "archive" you can find it for yourself)

3) you first tried to dismiss the link as bogus--now you're just red herring the hell out of everything you can think of--name calling, pointing out my sig.

 

4) you have nothing but hot air on this one. you've been decisively owned. be mature and admit it. move on.

 

you'll start getting more respect when you do.

[famousb 11]

ah, nice switch, sunshine: that's not what you were talking about above when you stuck your nose in where it didn't belong.

 

so, uh, consider yourself still owned. um, ah, okay?

uh, let me check, was i referring to just that one post of your made up rhetoric w/ my post... um, no...

did i mention anything about just wanting one link for that specific topic you made up... um, no...

does that link even provide readable content for anyone w/o an account... um, no...

and if that guy was credible, and the story was credible, wouldn't there be similar links about the same story available from other credible sources... um, yes...

 

rented, no.

leased, no.

borrowed, no.

owned, not even close....

 

but keep thinking that you're posting legit stuff... that's all that matters in your world anyway...

[DrJ 0]

1) you chided me, demanding a link that showed benson wasn't doing well with the catching thing

2) i provided the link (and if you go to the bears board and click on "archive" you can find it for yourself)

3) you first tried to dismiss the link as bogus--now you're just red herring the hell out of everything you can think of--name calling, pointing out my sig.

 

4) you have nothing but hot air on this one. you've been decisively owned. be mature and admit it. move on.

 

you'll start getting more respect when you do.

 

I guess all we really need to add here is:

 

Welch dog = O-W-N-E-D.

 

[swamp dog 0]

I guess all we really need to add here is:

 

Welch dog = O-W-N-E-D.

 

 

okay, i can play this game, too: the sky is green!

 

[DrJ 0]

okay, i can play this game, too: the sky is green!

 

Mike Williams is skinny.

 

[swamp dog 0]

Mike Williams is skinny.

 

 

benson has talent

[Dont_Fook_Wit_me 0]

I was at the bears training camp today. Jones came out of the locker room on a cart with his leg slightly lifted by stacked towels, and no pads. But When he did report to feild #1 and started walking, with no limp. He ended up catching some balls but did not run much, also the bears have officaly taken him off the can not perform list.

 

GO BEARS