ffdomino 0 Posted August 25, 2006 Rudi is this years Edge (consistentcy-wise) Edge is this years Deuce (never overestimate a bad team) SJax is this years McGahee (if hype only had points) Santana Moss is this years Randy Moss (weird irony thing going on here) Kitna is this years Carson Palmer (forgot Palmer was a reletive late rounder last year) Bush is this year JJ Arington (I know...a bit rough) Mike Vick is this years Mike Vick (but no one ever listens) Willie Parker is this years Tiki (sleeping-wise) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatorbait7391 0 Posted August 25, 2006 ronnie brown is this years mcgahee-overhyped Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beantownbrown 0 Posted August 25, 2006 This year's Trent Dilfer is last year's....Trent Dilfer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
De Novo 0 Posted August 26, 2006 Rudi is this years Edge (consistentcy-wise) Edge is this years Deuce (never overestimate a bad team) SJax is this years McGahee (if hype only had points) Santana Moss is this years Randy Moss (weird irony thing going on here) Kitna is this years Carson Palmer (forgot Palmer was a reletive late rounder last year) Bush is this year JJ Arington (I know...a bit rough) Mike Vick is this years Mike Vick (but no one ever listens) Willie Parker is this years Tiki (sleeping-wise) I was in agreement until I read Kitna, Bush Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frankie Valiant 0 Posted August 26, 2006 Today is yesterday's tomorrow!.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFOpie 0 Posted August 26, 2006 ronnie brown is this years mcgahee-overhyped I've been thinking the same thing and I hope it doesn't turn out to be true because I did draft Ronnie last Sun with the #7 pick. I really am not entirely confident of Miami but I pulled the trigger and hope I guessed right that he'll outperform the guys I left on the board. Last year I wouldn't touch McGahee where people were touting him (4th-8th). It does seem disturbingly similar to me too but I think the hype is more justified this year but I would agree it's maybe a bit overboard. If he makes 1300/300/8 I'll be happy enough with the pick. This years Jets will be last years Texans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
www.kyleortonfans.com 0 Posted August 26, 2006 This years Bears D/ST is last years Bears D/ST. You god damn right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moose 0 Posted August 26, 2006 SJax is this years McGahee (if hype only had points) This is a horrible comparison. First of all, McGahee has no passing game to keep defenses honest. SJax has the league's most consistently dominant WR, plus great depth with Bruce and Curtis. Marc Bulger is leagues ahead of Losman or Holcomb as well. Then you must consider strength of schedule. The Bills faced some very tough rush defenses in Tampa Bay, New England (twice), Kansas City, San Diego, Denver, and Carolina. SJax gets to play a total of four games against the abyssmal 49er and Cardinal defenses, plus Houston, Detroit, Green Bay, and Oakland. The only tough games for St. Louis are against the Seahawks, Panthers, and Bears. I doubt SJax will be seeing my bench much this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yanivsme 0 Posted August 26, 2006 ronnie brown is this years mcgahee-overhyped please explain more magahee had jp and a horrible defense brown has a good offense decent line and a pretty good d plus a good coach overhyped..maybe? but he will def have better #'s than magahee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan35 0 Posted August 26, 2006 Addai is last year's Tatum Bell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidbostonisgood 2 Posted August 26, 2006 Matt Millen is this years....Matt Millen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFOpie 0 Posted August 26, 2006 please explain more magahee had jp and a horrible defense brown has a good offense decent line and a pretty good d plus a good coach overhyped..maybe? but he will def have better #'s than magahee Both were 1st year starters that had some very nice games on teams that looked like they were on the rise. Buffalo closed out very strong two years ago, all with defense really. But the following year their D fell apart with some injuries (T Spikes mainly) and their offense was inconsistent behind Losman. Miami last year closed with a six game winning streak but if you look at the games the only win worth mentioning was against San Diego, the other teams were terrible (except final week Indy who rested all their starters). You mentioned the coaching and I agree that Saban is a much better HC than Mularkey. Mularkey very much reminds me of Pete Carroll when he tried to coach New England. Trouble is that Mularkey is now in Miami but as a coordinator I'm comfortable with him there. Defensively you have a similar squad to 05 albeit they're all a year older and on average not young to begin with. Add to this the Culpepper factor. I really like Pep and think he's a fantastic QB. Miami hasn't had a QB as good since Marino and even then Dan's last 3-4 years were lackluster. The offense should get a nice boost from the QB position. Miami at least by the percentages is supposed to play an easier schedule this year. How that's possible looking at last year's schedule is a bit of a mystery, but it is what it is. It's an extremely weak schedule. Obviously, Bongmastah Flash Ricky is gone for at least this coming year so Brown should get many more opportunities to touch the ball this year. If you add Brown & Williams numbers together from last season you get 1650rsh/325recy/11TDs. But that's with two fresh players for most of the games. Someone is going to spell Ronnie and take away some of his carries. If Brown does get 75% of those combined numbers he'd have 1230/244/8 he'd be around 8th in most PPR systems. So what it comes down to I guess, is that there are lots of ifs and mights and general speculation involved with how Brown will perform this year. He's certainly a very good player but that doesn't guarantee fantasy numbers. I personally selected him 7th in the last draft I did passing up Cadillac (mostly because of injury risk) and SJax (for a variety of concerns). I very well maybe have been wrong. I guess we'll see. To me, he's a gamble at 7 and a real gamble anywhere higher than that. It's very risky to spend your #1 pick on any unproven player. It's why i wouldn't touch Willis last year in the first round. This year, at least in one draft I'm taking a chance on Brown. I do think he's in a great position to have a solid year else I wouldn't have done it. But there are shades of 05 McGahee to the pick that scare me a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted August 26, 2006 This year's T.O. is going to be last year's T.O. Once an idiot always an idiot! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2bmayhem 1 Posted August 26, 2006 This is a horrible comparison. First of all, McGahee has no passing game to keep defenses honest. SJax has the league's most consistently dominant WR, plus great depth with Bruce and Curtis. Marc Bulger is leagues ahead of Losman or Holcomb as well. Then you must consider strength of schedule. The Bills faced some very tough rush defenses in Tampa Bay, New England (twice), Kansas City, San Diego, Denver, and Carolina. SJax gets to play a total of four games against the abyssmal 49er and Cardinal defenses, plus Houston, Detroit, Green Bay, and Oakland. The only tough games for St. Louis are against the Seahawks, Panthers, and Bears. I doubt SJax will be seeing my bench much this year. Just curious what o-line SJax is running behind this year? Better than last year? An above average pass offense/personnel helps, but can Linehan bring discipline to flag happy line? Is everyone on the o-line healthy? I'm suffering in the #5 spot this year, sooo I'm looking at SJax round one. Preseason projections and all have the Rams with a less than stellar o-line and above "average" SOS rush opponents. That's all formed opinion/theory based on last year's results though. Half the games you mentioned against the niners and cardinals are on the road. Yes? Perhaps the cardinals can light it up on their home turf? Looking at offseason moves / injury recovery, they in theory are better defensively. The niners play better at home? no? Just phishing for informed opinions on the guys that will get Sjax from four yards deep to five or more down the field, over and over and over. FWIW...an accurate assessment of McGahee. I owned him last year, and he had to grind for every inch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites