ryan5581 0 Posted August 31, 2006 I'll soon be drafting in a fairly deep league: 12 teams, 12 starters+5 bench, with a somewhat unconventional lineup, though the scoring is pretty standard: 2 QB 2 RB 1 RB/WR 3 WR 1 WR/TE 1 TE 1 K 1 DEF I have several questions on the league setup: 1) How to set the flex spots? I entered 2 RB/WR/TE? 2) How many backups to enter at each position? I entered 0.8 QB, 2.2 RB, 1.2 WR, 0.4 K, 0.4 DEF (whole numbers didn't seem appropriate)? 3) Combine WR and TE? 4) Overall rankings method? I'm not quite sure why there should be different methods. It seems like the objective is always to maximize the total expected points of your roster (if not just your starters)? I read that 2 QB leagues should not be compiler recommended - why? Thanks in advance for the help, Ryan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zhinz 0 Posted August 31, 2006 I'm not sure how to do your Flex Positions, actually. The problem is that if you put in two Off Flex, and include RB, WR, and TE in that, then the compiler will think that you can start RBs at both flex, which isn't the case. The last guy who had that, I had him Combine WR and TE and do 1 Off Flex (RB / WR), but that will devalue TEs too much in your league, where you have to start one. Let me ask you this? Is it common for someone to start a 2nd TE, or is it usually a 4th WR? Given how TEs usually rank, I'm guessing it's the later. So with that said, I would do it as 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, and 1 Off Flex (which can be RB or WR). Quick hits on your other questions: Your backup positions look reasonable. No, don't combine WR and TE. Compiler Recommended has been tweaked to be most accurate in normal (among other things, 1 QB) draft leagues. It devalues the QBs a little too much if you're in a start 2 QB league like you are. I think Mike recommends Last Starter for those leagues instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike MacGregor 20 Posted August 31, 2006 Good answer Zac. I like that method for handling the flex WR/TE just forcing it to the WR spot (makes sense). I was going to suggest you could put 2 O-Flex and check off RB, WR and TE. Even though you can't start RB at both flex spots, I think given the size of the league, by the time the Compiler compares the points between the available RB and WR and TE for both flex spots, the RB will be into the backups and not scoring a ton of points. Ergo, the Compiler should not overwhelm the overall rankings with RB as a result of that final flex spot which should only go to a WR or TE. I actually like Median Player Drafted instead of Last Starter, as it gives a little more emphasis to the value of depth on the roster. The reasoning is correct re: Compiler Recommended for start 2 QB leagues... the QB value is deflated a little too much to my liking. Probably less a concern for your league because you have more RB/WR/TE than a "normal" league as well, but I think I'd still test out Median Player Drafted first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan5581 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Zac - it seems that the depth at TE this year allows for 1 good starter for each of the 12 teams. Beyond that TEs aren't very valuable, so yes, I think a 4th WR would usually fill the WR/TE flex. Mike - I like your analysis of the flex as well. I'll check that the differences between Zac's method and yours are relatively minimal. I'm not completely clear on the overall ranking method - when you say "QB value deflated a little too much to my liking," do you just mean that Compiler Recommended would tend to draft you a better overall roster but probably not provide "solid QBs"? You say "Median Player Drafted" will give more emphasis to depth - do you mean that I'll tend to have good value at all starting positions, rather than needing to rely on a few "superstars?" Thanks again guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike MacGregor 20 Posted August 31, 2006 The Compiler Recommended has a built in baseline adjust factor which lowers the value of QBs. I think this is completely appropriate for most leagues which start 1 QB. I find it devalues the QB position a little too much for start 2 QB leagues, so that is why I caution using it for a league such as yours. Maybe next year I should make the Compiler Recommended method dynamic so it switches the baseline depending on the start/bench inputs. But then... that could be a bit of a nightmare to try to explain. On the second point, I mean that Median Player Drafted will put a little more emphasis on the value of backups, whereas Last Starter gives very little emphasis (or any?) to backups. Since I know going in to a draft that I will never just start the guys I draft as "starters", I want to make sure I give adequate importance to my depth (backups), particularly at key positions. This is why I'm often drafting 3rd and 4th RBs, or 4th and 5th WRs long before I've filled in my other starting positions. Some people agree with it, and some don't. Note if you use Last Starter Drafted method, it isn't going to matter what you input at the backup positions, The overall rankings will be the same every time (or should be unless I'm overlooking something). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites