L. Jordon or Julius Jones

[fixedrate 0]

I have Rudi Johnson and McAllister as my 2 running backs.....need a 3rd, which would be better in a PPR reception...Lamont Jordon or Juluis Jones? We know that Barber hurts Jones but do you think Dom Rhodes will have a big effect on Jordon....my other choices or Adrian Peterson, Brandon Jackson, or Norwood? Any thoughts?

[brya31 0]

I would post this on the "A Little Help" board, but besides that, I would go with Jordan, even though he has sucked, he is a starting back and looks good in the pre season.

[Greedo 13]

Rhodes is out the first bunch of games. I'd take Jordan - he'll get more opportunities, both rushing and receiving.

[The Postman 3]

I would post this on the "A Little Help" board, but besides that, I would go with Jordan, even though he has sucked, he is a starting back and looks good in the pre season.

You guys surely are joking when you say Jordan or Jones over A. Petersen????? We are talking about a different level of player.

[Greedo 13]

I've got A Peterson ahead of both, but he asked about Jordan vs. Jones.

[The Postman 3]

I've got A Peterson ahead of both, but he asked about Jordan vs. Jones.

He also said petersen was still available.

[Murphys Law 0]

in a PPR I go Jordan over all the rest you mentioned.

[The Postman 3]

in a PPR I go Jordan over all the rest you mentioned.

I would really like to hear your justification of Jordan over Petersen in ANY league.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

I would really like to hear your justification of Jordan over Petersen in ANY league.

 

Let's see....for one, despite one impressive carry from AP that made the highlight reel, Chester Taylor is appreently the starter in what is a RBBC on a Vikes team with a terrible QB and mediocre (at best) WRs.

 

For two, the Raider have looked very very good with their new blocking scheme, CPep looking solid and Jordan running like a man on a mission. That's 2 straight games of RB1 caliber performance from Jordan who had 1500/10 and 70 receptions 2 years ago. One bad season with injury and on a terrible team didn't completely erase the skill set that Jordan brings to the table as evidenced by his performance in the last game of close to 100 total yards and 1 TD in 1/2 a game of play. That included a nifty 49 yard reception on a catch & run by the way. CPep seems to be able to like Jordan as a target and unlike Brooks/Walter knows how to lead the runner instead of throwing it behind him.

 

I take Jordan over Peterson 100 times out of 100 in a redraft league right now. I am on record as being "back on the Kool Aid". After the 2nd game I was still skeptical - now I'm convinced. Jordan is in great shape and there's no way in hell Rhodes comes back after 4 games and plays a significnat enough role to impact Jordan's production. If CPep continues to impress I'm also going to go on record and say that Minnesota is a worse offensive football team than Oakland.

 

And all this is coming from a life-long die hard Raiders hater.

[Greedo 13]

Let's see....for one, despite one impressive carry from AP that made the highlight reel, Chester Taylor is appreently the starter in what is a RBBC on a Vikes team with a terrible QB and mediocre (at best) WRs.

 

For two, the Raider have looked very very good with their new blocking scheme, CPep looking solid and Jordan running like a man on a mission. That's 2 straight games of RB1 caliber performance from Jordan who had 1500/10 and 70 receptions 2 years ago. One bad season with injury and on a terrible team didn't completely erase the skill set that Jordan brings to the table as evidenced by his performance in the last game of close to 100 total yards and 1 TD in 1/2 a game of play. That included a nifty 49 yard reception on a catch & run by the way. CPep seems to be able to like Jordan as a target and unlike Brooks/Walter knows how to lead the runner instead of throwing it behind him.

 

I take Jordan over Peterson 100 times out of 100 in a redraft league right now. I am on record as being "back on the Kool Aid". After the 2nd game I was still skeptical - now I'm convinced. Jordan is in great shape and there's no way in hell Rhodes comes back after 4 games and plays a significnat enough role to impact Jordan's production. If CPep continues to impress I'm also going to go on record and say that Minnesota is a worse offensive football team than Oakland.

 

And all this is coming from a life-long die hard Raiders hater.

 

Well put. I have Peterson 1 spot ahead of Jordan (29 vs. 30), but yours is a great argument.

[The Postman 3]

Let's see....for one, despite one impressive carry from AP that made the highlight reel, Chester Taylor is appreently the starter in what is a RBBC on a Vikes team with a terrible QB and mediocre (at best) WRs.

 

For two, the Raider have looked very very good with their new blocking scheme, CPep looking solid and Jordan running like a man on a mission. That's 2 straight games of RB1 caliber performance from Jordan who had 1500/10 and 70 receptions 2 years ago. One bad season with injury and on a terrible team didn't completely erase the skill set that Jordan brings to the table as evidenced by his performance in the last game of close to 100 total yards and 1 TD in 1/2 a game of play. That included a nifty 49 yard reception on a catch & run by the way. CPep seems to be able to like Jordan as a target and unlike Brooks/Walter knows how to lead the runner instead of throwing it behind him.

 

I take Jordan over Peterson 100 times out of 100 in a redraft league right now. I am on record as being "back on the Kool Aid". After the 2nd game I was still skeptical - now I'm convinced. Jordan is in great shape and there's no way in hell Rhodes comes back after 4 games and plays a significnat enough role to impact Jordan's production. If CPep continues to impress I'm also going to go on record and say that Minnesota is a worse offensive football team than Oakland.

 

And all this is coming from a life-long die hard Raiders hater.

Lets see, I will give you odds right now that Petersen is the starter in Minny by game 3 and will get the bulk of the load in games 1 and 2. The vikes have a very solid defense, and run a ball control offense, therefore the QB just has to run the system, not be spectacular.

 

2nd, CPep still has a ton to show before I think that he is solid, and Jordan has (and I repeat) NEVER been and NEVER will be the caliber of weapon that Petersen is.

 

Be sure that you write down you prediction, and be sure to place your order to the chef on how you like your crow!!

[rdrs4life 0]

And all this is coming from a life-long die hard Raiders hater.

 

 

 

May you die a fiery death sir.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Be sure that you write down you prediction, and be sure to place your order to the chef on how you like your crow!!

 

I love when people ask for people's opinions then rip them for them.

 

I will be right here to own up to any preseason prediction/opinion I post. I am not so arrogant to make guarantees that I will be right, but I will back up my opinions with what I believe to be sound reasoning.

 

Good luck to you.

[urmother 0]

talent-wise i'd call em both pretty equivalent. and both are in undisputed rbbc's. but jones plays in a strong cowboys offense while jordan plays on a disaster of an oakland team. unless you're planning on using lamont jordan in the first 4 weeks (3 RB+ league, or questionable health starter like Portis) i can't see taking him over jones. (unless you're in a ppr where jordan's clearly a better back.)

 

i'd still easily go ADP over both of 'em.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

May you die a fiery death sir.

 

uh, no offense?

 

1/2 my friends are Raiders fans, and in my IDP league there are 4 of them. They sucked last year and they abandoned the Bay Area like Traitors, but they're fans is good people. They deserved better than last year.

[The Postman 3]

I love when people ask for people's opinions then rip them for them.

 

I will be right here to own up to any preseason prediction/opinion I post. I am not so arrogant to make guarantees that I will be right, but I will back up my opinions with what I believe to be sound reasoning.

 

Good luck to you.

And good luck to you, I just don't buy your logic.

[OD99 0]

2nd, CPep still has a ton to show before I think that he is solid, and Jordan has (and I repeat) NEVER been and NEVER will be the caliber of weapon that Petersen is.

 

You forgot to say that Petersen has NEVER been a top caliber weapon in the NFL.

 

I haven't been able to see any Minny pre-season action and I know Petersen is very gifted but I can't believe how often I have seen him drafted in the 4th round in mocks and then I get blasted for taking Jordan in the 5th or 6th...

 

Minny won't have a good offense and the lines will be stacked against the run all season while the Raiders will be airing it out and making space for the RB's PLUS we already know how well Jordan can run and receive.

 

If I get Jordan in the 5th this year it will be a STEAL

[rdrs4life 0]

uh, no offense?

 

1/2 my friends are Raiders fans, and in my IDP league there are 4 of them. They sucked last year and they abandoned the Bay Area like Traitors, but they're fans is good people. They deserved better than last year.

 

 

May you live long and prosperous, sir.

[The Postman 3]

You forgot to say that Petersen has NEVER been a top caliber weapon in the NFL.

 

I haven't been able to see any Minny pre-season action and I know Petersen is very gifted but I can't believe how often I have seen him drafted in the 4th round in mocks and then I get blasted for taking Jordan in the 5th or 6th...

 

Minny won't have a good offense and the lines will be stacked against the run all season while the Raiders will be airing it out and making space for the RB's PLUS we already know how well Jordan can run and receive.

 

If I get Jordan in the 5th this year it will be a STEAL

I would say he will be available, go ahead and take him. The Raiders have much to prove before their offense scares anyone.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

If I get Jordan in the 5th this year it will be a STEAL

 

11.02 in an IDP league, but still - with 4 Raider fans in my league I am baffled as to how that can happen. These were all grown men who've been playing FFB for years. I think part was timing (runs on DL and LB distracted them) part was stupidity (2 owners said they thought he'd been taken and had him scratched off their boards) and part was dumb luck and being in the right place in the draft to grab him while the guys on the other end kept saying, "one more round".

 

That was on the 19th of August. 2 preseaon games later I am targeting him in the 5th-6th round of my upcoming drafts.

[OD99 0]

11.02 in an IDP league, but still - with 4 Raider fans in my league I am baffled as to how that can happen. These were all grown men who've been playing FFB for years. I think part was timing (runs on DL and LB distracted them) part was stupidity (2 owners said they thought he'd been taken and had him scratched off their boards) and part was dumb luck and being in the right place in the draft to grab him while the guys on the other end kept saying, "one more round".

 

That was on the 19th of August. 2 preseaon games later I am targeting him in the 5th-6th round of my upcoming drafts.

 

Exactly why I now have to grab him in the 5th or 6th...strong preseason cemented my thoughts but now he will creep into other peoples thought too - plus drafting 12 of 14 means I am at the end of the 5th round.

 

My other "sleeper" (hard to use that word anymore) is Bo Scaife but he is playing well in the preseason too and has moved up quite a bit I think

[Day Old Doughnut 0]

Lets see, I will give you odds right now that Petersen is the starter in Minny by game 3 and will get the bulk of the load in games 1 and 2. The vikes have a very solid defense, and run a ball control offense, therefore the QB just has to run the system, not be spectacular.

 

2nd, CPep still has a ton to show before I think that he is solid, and Jordan has (and I repeat) NEVER been and NEVER will be the caliber of weapon that Petersen is.

 

Be sure that you write down you prediction, and be sure to place your order to the chef on how you like your crow!!

 

Me thinks you drafted Peterson and are looking for justification on your pick.

[The Postman 3]

Me thinks you drafted Peterson and are looking for justification on your pick.

Not, just don't care for Jordan. I don't have Petersen in either of my leagues, but I would still take him over Jordan.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Exactly why I now have to grab him in the 5th or 6th...strong preseason cemented my thoughts but now he will creep into other peoples thought too - plus drafting 12 of 14 means I am at the end of the 5th round.

 

My other "sleeper" (hard to use that word anymore) is Bo Scaife but he is playing well in the preseason too and has moved up quite a bit I think

 

I have him too - 23rd round TE2.

 

A lot of my sleeper targets are giving me warm fuzzies this preseason - Scaif looks like a real steal at TE, and the Graham injru has solidified that a lot. Plus he & Young go way back together. 6 receptions for 100 and a TD in the preseason so far - not bad for a late round TE2.

 

So I just spoke with 2 of the Raiders homers in my IDP league - they were pissed off because they both thought about taking Jordan "at least 3 times" in the draft, but got burned by him last year and vowed to not touch him. Now they're pissed because Jordan's looked great and the league's lone Niner fan has him. lol!

[urmother 0]

some of you are reading too much into the preseason

[rdrs4life 0]

some of you are reading too much into the preseason

 

ur mom is a who.re

[unckeyherb 2]

Lets see, I will give you odds right now that Petersen is the starter in Minny by game 3 and will get the bulk of the load in games 1 and 2. The vikes have a very solid defense, and run a ball control offense, therefore the QB just has to run the system, not be spectacular.

 

2nd, CPep still has a ton to show before I think that he is solid, and Jordan has (and I repeat) NEVER been and NEVER will be the caliber of weapon that Petersen is.

 

Be sure that you write down you prediction, and be sure to place your order to the chef on how you like your crow!!

I am interested to hear what makes you think an unproven rookie with past injury history is going to supplant a veteran RB that Minny targeted and paid for last year. A RB by the way that managed to put up 1500 total yards on the craptastic offense that was Minny's. AND in three games no less! I don't disagree that Peterson is good, but I think you are doing drugs if you think that he will get more carries than chester in the first game.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

some of you are reading too much into the preseason

 

At this point, when it's 1st team against 1st team playing for an entire half, and the "main" preseason game, that statement is a bit overblown.

 

You can learn a lot right now. After the 1st preseason game you have a point, but the next two actually tell you something. This last one especially so.

[rdrs4life 0]

At this point, when it's 1st team against 1st team playing for an entire half, and the "main" preseason game, that statement is a bit overblown.

 

You can learn a lot right now. After the 1st preseason game you have a point, but the next two actually tell you something. This last one especially so.

 

 

[The Postman 3]

I am interested to hear what makes you think an unproven rookie with past injury history is going to supplant a veteran RB that Minny targeted and paid for last year. A RB by the way that managed to put up 1500 total yards on the craptastic offense that was Minny's. AND in three games no less! I don't disagree that Peterson is good, but I think you are doing drugs if you think that he will get more carries than chester in the first game.

Hide and watch. He will get more touches....

[urmother 0]

At this point, when it's 1st team against 1st team playing for an entire half, and the "main" preseason game, that statement is a bit overblown.

 

You can learn a lot right now. After the 1st preseason game you have a point, but the next two actually tell you something. This last one especially so.

the raiders were 4:1 last year in the preseason.

 

not completely insignificant, but i don't go gaga changing rankings for established or top nfl players. for gauging fights for the #2 wr spot or other contested starting spots it's a lot more useful imo.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

 

 

That is the best post "fix" I've ever seen. Well done young jedi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I still hate the Raiders though

[murf74 461]

I just got Jordan as my #4 RB in the 8th round of an Antsports league, Jones went about 2 picks before me.....but I will tell you in that PPR scoring I would take Jordan cause MBIII seems to be the 3rd down guy.

 

I rarely get 4 RBs in 8 rounds but the upside was way to much to pass....

 

I am hoping Jordan has a great couple games and I can trade him before Rhodes gets there. But of course if he plays great, why trade him.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

I am hoping Jordan has a great couple games and I can trade him before Rhodes gets there. But of course if he plays great, why trade him.

 

Exactly. Rhodes only time as a starter was due to injury of the primary - he's never earned a starting gig in his life and I certainly don't expect him to overtake Jordan if he continues to look this impressive for the 1st 4 games.

 

Hell, at this point all Jordan needs to do is give 100% effort and it's his job to lose. Not like Rhodes brings better skills to the table.

[rdrs4life 0]

Exactly. Rhodes only time as a starter was due to injury of the primary - he's never earned a starting gig in his life and I certainly don't expect him to overtake Jordan if he continues to look this impressive for the 1st 4 games.

 

Hell, at this point all Jordan needs to do is give 100% effort and it's his job to lose. Not like Rhodes brings better skills to the table.

 

 

You should post more often, 20 posts/day aint enough.

[unckeyherb 2]

Hide and watch. He will get more touches....

the answer I was expecting. You say he will get more touches and therefore he will.

 

Impressive reasoning. I'm convinced.

[Leshavelli 0]

Jordan, hands down! Look for him to have a pretty big year!

[markf 0]

Picked up Jordan as my #3 with confidence in the 7th round... though the pick got a little jeered. I see him as a starting RB in a world of RBBC (for now at least) and that's gotta be worth something. Other choice was Fred Taylor... who I also think will do well, but too many chickens in the coup there.

[fixedrate 0]

Soooo you do think that Jordon IS be a better pick than J.Jones? Just want to make sure.....

[ullloveit 0]

I would have to say go with Peterson because he is one of those players you pick "to WIn it". His upside is very very good.

 

Go with upside and talent as your 3rd back. That will win you your league.

 

Good Luck