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Yeah... the guys with the #1 pick in my keeper league (we also start 5 IDPs) are deciding between Jeanty and Hunter. Those 2 and Hampton will be the firs 3 off the board. If Hunter can put up 8-12 fantasy points as a WR per game along with a typical 6-8 as a DB, all from starting in the DB slot or Defensive Flex slot, then he could possibly the #1 point producer in many weeks.

We WANT players to get everything they do on either side of the ball in my leagues. If my WR makes a tackle after an INT, then he gets that point. Always. And forever. If my big fat DL is put on the offense at the goal line as an eligible receiver and catches it... he gets the 6.6 points. (TD, 1 yard rec, 1 half point rec) That was never the issue. That's the way we want it and coincidentally, that's the way Yahoo, ESPN, RTS, and others have it set up as a default. We like it. Hunter getting points from both sides was never the issue. Of course he will as he should. It's just a matter of what slot you can start him from for us. Anyway, it is resolved and the vote is in and it was a landslide. He can be started in either a DB slot or a WR slot or a Flex slot. Just sent this to the leagues: Be advised: Hunter's dual designation is not necessarily permanent. If after his rookie season it appears his usage is limited to one side of the ball, then Yahoo and other platforms will surely change his dual designation into a single one (as they have done in the past). When that happens, the change is made before a new season starts, not in the middle of a season. The GM who drafts Hunter will be accepting that risk. If his designation gets changed, Hunters starting slot will follow it. Of course, like any other player, he will still get all of his points from both sides of the ball. Thank you everyone for your advice. I appreciate it. @weepaws @TBayXXXVII @polecatt @JagFan @Maximum Overkill @Showboat @nobody

Well the poll is going well in the league. No phony exceptions for a single dual threat player. Whoever drafts Hunter will be able to start him wherever Yahoo allows and he's going to get all his points from both sides of the ball. That's the way it should be IMO.

he starts in one position. But he gets points for anything he does in the game. Like any other player. See Taysom Hill. Whether you started him at QB or TE (if you were allowed) you got his points for whatever he did. And, if it was an IDP league and Taysom Hill made a special teams tackle or a tackle after he got intercepted, you'd get the point for the tackle as well. A player's points is never limited by the slot you started him in. At least not on any major platform.

If he is playing in any standard IDP league, most platforms will give him points from both sides of the ball no matter where he starts. Just like they do for any player. FOr example, if a WR makes a tackle after an INT, he gets points for that tackle as well as any WR points for the rest of the game. I've never seen a platform do anything else. RTS, Yahoo, ESPN are the ones I know.

Yep. Should be interesting to watch what the Jaguars do. If I were on the clock in a keeper league with IDPs, I'd take Jeanty over Hunter without a doubt. I've got some GMs who think he will put big numbers up at WR plus avge at DB so they are super high on him.

no host site does that to the best of my knowledge. The question was always where he was starting in the fantasy lineup... not where he was starting on the Jaguars. No matter if he starts in the WR slot or in the DB slot (or flex for that matter), he will always get all his points from both sides of the ball. That is not the issue. Some of the GMs are sore because whoever gets him would likely be assured of a weekly abnormal number for a DB starter.

That's my take. Vote is leaning towards allowing him to start in either spot. Thankfully! If he is a unicorn, then so be it. Good luck to the GM who drafts him.

True, but his WR points + IDP points will count no matter where he is started. Starting him as a DB gives that GM a huge edge. 6-7 pts for a reasonable day at DB PLUS another 10 for 4-5 receptions for 50-60yds and perhaps a receiving TD is an unheard of number for a DB on a weekly basis. We play 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, and 2 defensive flex. He would instantly become King of the IDPs. He will get all of his points from both sides no matter where he starts.

I am a GM of two 12-team keeper leagues, each one starts 5 IDPs. We are having issues deciding how to manage Travis Hunter. The decision we make will greatly impact his draft value. In my league, no matter what position a player is starting, he gets all his points for the day. For example, if a WR makes a tackle after an INT, he gets the tackle point. If a big defender is lined up on offense at the goal line and runs the ball in, he gets his running points. The issue is whether we should restrict where Travis Hunter can be started in a lineup. Managers in my leagues seem to want to restrict Hunter to being started as a WR (still getting all his points from both sides of the ball). They don't want him started in the IDP position because they feel his WR points will make him astronomically the best IDP ever and a unicorn each and every week the GM starts him as an IDP. But who am I to restrict this? If he is capable of doing all this, then isn't that his real value? But is it still better overall to impose this "artificial" restriction just because they don't want one lucky GM to reap the potential benefits? My leagues have to decide this because it seriously affects his draft value in this keeper league. If he can be started in an IDP slot, he will likely be 1st player off the board instead of Jeanty. I'm conducting a vote in both those leagues now. Your advice/opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Bump Still looking for a GM for the orphan in this league. Solid keepers and I will add some spice to the keepers as an incentive, if interested. It's a great league folks!

1st and Goal league: 12-team Keeper league started in 2002. Currently using Yahoo, far from perfect but has the fewer flaws we've decided after using different platforms through the years. Offense (9): QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, Flex-1(RB/WR/TE), Flex-2(RB/WR/TE), K Defense (5): DL, LB, DB, Flex-1 (DL/LB/DB) Flex-2 (DL/LB/DB) Entry is $225 and payouts go to top 4 + one consolation prize among the remaining 8. 1st & Goal Championship Playoffs and Consolation Sweeps Contest are held during NFL Weeks 15, 16 and 17. Playoff Seeding - At the end of Week 14, the two teams with the best W-L records qualify as seeds 1 & 2, and earn a Week 15 bye. The two teams with the 3rd & 4th best W-L records qualify as seeds 3 & 4. The two remaining teams with the greatest number of total points will qualify as wildcards for seeds 5 & 6. Week 15 - Seeds 1 & 2 on byes. Quarterfinals: Seeds 3 & 4 face seeds 6 & 5, respectively. Winners move on to semifinals. Losers join Consolation Contest and continue accruing points through Week 17. Week 16 - Championship semifinals: If the host site allows, Seed 1 will choose its opponent for week 16 from the two week 15 winners. Seed 2 will face the other week 15 winner. Week 17 - Championship final: The two semifinals winners play each other for the Championship. The two semifinals losers play each other for 3rd place. Consolation “Sweeps” Contest - The 8 teams who do not make it to the Championship Semifinals will participate in the Total-Points Consolation Contest during weeks 15, 16 and 17. Each team begins with its average weekly points (season total ÷ 14) + weeks 15, 16 and 17 totals. 1st & Goal entry fee is $225. Total prize pool: $2,700 paid to 1st-4th + consolation prize. 2-4 keepers allowed. Message me for details. Very nice options!

he throws bricks! but can't catch them.