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I won't tell you which side I'm on so I don't influence anything, but here it is: Edge, Mike Bell, Tony hunt, #24 pick in the rookie/FA draft for #3 pick in the rookie/FA draft Obviously it's a dynasty draft. Is this something to get bent out of shape over with the league and try to reverse it?

bump...just was wondering about a couple more comments so I could show the league.

I need Marshall and LT to combine for 16 points to win the championship.

Here's the quote from ESPN: Nov 30 News: In addition to getting his right (throwing) elbow banged up, Favre acknowledged that he separated his left (non-throwing) shoulder in Thursday's loss to the Cowboys. Spin: Favre, who felt numbness and tingling in his throwing arm, will now have until 12/9 to get ready for the Packers' next game, against the Raiders. His toughness is legendary, so don't bet against him playing. We'll keep you posted on his status in the coming days. And the link

I watched the game and it appeared that NE got a hand on the ball that made Indy miss a FG, and the commentators said it too, but my NE defense wasn't given credit for it and I lost by 2 points. Just wondered if anybody else saw it or if anybody else's scoring system gave them credit for it.

I think this guy's right. Why are you guys in here looking for ways to win your league? Don't you realize everyone should be .500 and have a 12 way tie for the playoffs? Don't take advantage of people who bought stud players high that have totally sucked, and then have their impatient owners see if they can salvage their season by attempting to, in their stupid minds, do what they think might possibly "improve their team!". They should NOT have that opprotunity, because surely, 100% of the time, guys like Larry Johnson will come back and be a top 2 RB by the end of the year (despite no camp, which leads to increased risk of injury, and the loss of two hall of fame lineman and their QB so every team stacks the line). There is no risk and all reward by trading for him right now, so you should NOT have that opprotunity! All trades should be on hold until at LEAST week 12 so everybody can be forced into being patient owners and we all have at least 3 months of information to base the trade on. ELIMINATE RISK and HAVE EVERYBODY TIE, while maintaining NO FUN is the key!!!!

That was called "sarcasm"...I'm not sure these guys are sleepers. They're all starters that people are talking about already. Man that thing is funny:

Sleepers? I've never heard of these guys. I'm sure nobody else has either!

You can rip it if you want, but this is more just for info for those wanting to see how another league saw it. FYI, QB's are undervalued in our league (guy got ripped for taking Russell at 1.11), and RB's are overvalued. It's been that way for years. But at least it will help you see the order in which guys were chosen within each position. It's 5 rounds, but from here out will be mainly kickers/defenses/lesser rookies. My picks have a * (I have lenWhale White) Pick Selection 1.01 Peterson, Adrian MIN RB 1.02 Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB 1.03 Johnson, Calvin DET WR 1.04 Jackson, Brandon GBP RB 1.05 Bush, Michael OAK RB 1.06* Henry, Chris TEN RB 1.07 Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB 1.08 Meachem, Robert NOS WR 1.09 Rice, Sidney MIN WR 1.10 Irons, Kenny CIN RB 1.11 Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB 1.12 Jarrett, Dwayne CAR WR 2.01 Porter, Jerry OAK WR 2.02 Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR 2.03 Pittman, Antonio NOS RB 2.04 Leonard, Brian STL RB 2.05 Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR 2.06* Hunt, Tony PHI RB 2.07 Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR 2.08 Olsen, Greg CHI TE 2.09 Burleson, Nate SEA WR 2.10 Smith, Steve NYG WR 2.11* Davis, Craig SDC WR 2.12 Hackett, D.J. SEA WR 3.01 Chargers, San Diego SDC Def 3.02 Thomas, Anthony BUF RB 3.03 Wolfe, Garrett CHI RB 3.04 Robinson, Michael SFO RB 3.05 Quinn, Brady CLE QB 3.06 Jurevicius, Joe CLE WR 3.07 Cowboys, Dallas DAL Def 3.08 Hill, Jason SFO WR 3.09 Robinson, Laurent ATL WR 3.10 Jones, Jacoby HOU WR 3.11* Dolphins, Miami MIA Def 3.12 Kitna, Jon DET QB 4.01 Miller, Zach OAK TE 4.02 Broncos, Denver DEN Def 4.03 Curtis, Kevin PHI WR 4.04 Williamson, Troy MIN WR 4.05 Williams, Reggie JAC WR 4.06 Price, Peerless BUF WR 4.07 Wilkins, Jeff STL PK 4.08 Bennett, Michael KCC RB

anybody else have their's done? How's it compare? Anthing way different outside of the QB's?

Uhhh, obviously no. And you had to quote the whole thing to make that comment, eh? Nice.

What about Tony Hunt? I don't really know much about him and never watched him in college. Is he nothing special? Because it seems like a decent situation in Philly...and I'm a little surprised to see Irons so high. Seems crowded with Rudi and Perry, and Irons had injuries and isn't that big.

Jackson is becoming a consensus #4 pick. After him i like Bush if you're already okay at RB this year and can wait a bit. Chris Henry probably has to be right there too if you are going RB. He scares me but I have LenWhale to and the #6 pick in my draft. I'd hate to waste it on Henry and it end up LenWhale and Henry both being busts while Tenn signs a guy like Dillon or C. Brown again to get by this year until they make a run at somebody like Turner next year.

See the rookie RB rankings for reason I wanted to start it by position. Here goes...feel free to rip away and put your own. I'm just going with my initial gut feeling based on talent and opprotunity: 1. Calvin Johnson 2. Dwayne Bowe 3. Craig Davis 4. Robert Meachem 5. Anthony Gonzales 6. Dwayne Jarret 7. Sidney Rice 8. Steve Smith 9. Jacoby Jones 10. Ted Ginn 11. Courtney Taylor 12. James Jones 13. Jason Hill 14. Andrae Allison 15. Paul Williams 16. Steven Breaston 17. David Clowney 18. Chris Davis

I don't know about you, but rookie RB's are golden in our 12 team league, and rookie QB's rarely go in our 1st round no matter what. Since everyone does a rookie mock that combines all the rookies together, I'm going to start something a little different that might be more useful for guys like me that see Russell and Quinn going WAY higher than they will in my league. Also, most stuff I've already seen have certain WR's going much higher above RB's that I know will get taken before them in my league. Here goes...feel free to rip away and put your own. I'm just going with my initial gut feeling based on talent and opprotunity: 1. Lynch 1a. Peterson 3. Brandon Jackson 4. Tony Hunt 5. Michael Bush 6. Chris Henry 7. Kenny Irons 8. Antonio Pittman 9. Lorenzo Booker 10. Brian Leonard 11. Kolby Smith 12. Garrett Wolfe 13. Dwayne Wright 14. Thomas Clayton

As a husker fan, it's hard to be objective, but I think he'll be a solid player in the NFL. He just seemed to do everything well. I wish I could've seen him another year, but with many capable RB's in the program the last couple years I think he saw this as his best opprotunity after rising to the top of them this year. The slightest injury or another guy doing something in practice could've hurt him next year so go out on top! He has great vision, good hands, follows blockers and was patient, and was a very tough runner to tackle despite not being very big. He had quick feet and cuts, wore teams down, and had "football speed". His 40 wasn't great, but after watching all his games this year I would've thought he was one of the faster guys on the field. Go ahead and correctly accuse me of being a homer though...cuz I am!

Handcuff doesn't do you much good if you aren't starting a 2nd RB. My other backs were: Tatum Bell Mike Bell LenWhale While (along with LT and Turner) 1.6 pick this year and the 1st rounder is a 2008 first rounder. The guy has Young, Reggie Bush, Benson, Leon Washington and now Turner (along with 1.1 this year). His Wr's are Branch, Evans, Jennings, Baskett. We have to start 2 RB's, 3 WR's, and a Flex, so he's not going to be a championship team by any means, but won't be a top 3 pick probably either. So, it gives me my 2nd starter (go Wisenhunt!) and probably a 1.6 next year for Turner. Kind of forced into it with my RB situations and Turner staying put.

Worried? Yeah. But I'm worried about something with every singe RB behind him...weird year for rookie RB's.

After listening to AJ on ESPN Radio and shooting it around with a friend, I promptly accepted the offer that was still on the table for Turner in my dynasty league. I have LT and needed another starting RB and thought for sure Turner would be going somewhere that needed him by this weekend. Just couldn't wait any longer. Got Edge and a 1st round rookie pick straight up for just Turner. Glad I accepted before the guy found out Turner was staying put. Still gonna suck to see him possibly blow it up for a team next year though...or...gulp...watch him take over if LT gets injured!

Like everybody else is stating and like I found out when trying to rank these WR's, after that 11-14, it didn't even matter anymore. They're all in there together. Looking like there's more validation coming in on Gonz since others here are putting him top 3. We hold our rookie draft in two weeks. I'll let you know where he goes in ours.

I knew I had him in there, but when I checked my list again he was gone. I double checked my hand-written list and I had him after Jason Hill at 14, but wrote him in there later and didn't see it when I copied it to this board. My bad. I've got him in there!

That's a tough spot to be in. A lot of the guys in my league I think were getting cold feet even before the draft on Adrian with his running style and collarbone not healed. I was one of the losers who picked Rogers years ago and his paper thin collarbone, so that has me scared since RB's take way more shots than WR's. At least with Lynch you know you'll have 1 1/2 full time starters with him and Chester instead of having just 1 or two 1/2's with Peterson and Chester.

I can take a rip, but not original and Gonz not 5th is all you got? Ginn - 2nd in draft, 10th on my list Flipped Davis and Meachem Flipped Jarrett and Rice Taylor was 25th WR taken, I have him 11th Nothing from 9 down is in the order taken in the draft. I'd say that's fairly original. And the fact that some of the top 8 resemble the regular draft? Uhhhh, that's because they just MIGHT have been taken in that order for somewhat of a reason. I still mixed them around a bit. And Gonz very well could be taken as the #5 WR. He runs awesome routes, and Manning's a precision guy. A #3 in Indy is comparable to a #2 on most teams or better. And Marvin ain't exactly young anymore. What you got for yours?

I put a WR list out right after this one. The reason I put Henry lower is because in a dyansty, Hunt and Bush have better long term value. Just a gut hunch though.

Let me think about it...I'll get back to you in a week.