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Brock Turner, in 2015, raped/assaulted (plea bargain - he did rape her) an unconscious girl behind a dumpster. He was a Stanford swimmer. The judge sentenced him to 6 months in jail because a harsher sentence, him having to go to prison at such a young age would have a severe impact on him not to mention all the impact of the media on him. And because HE was drunk and impaired, that may have been the reason he did this. (My interpretation of the judge’s words.) In the Accused movie the lawyer spoke about his client the same way the judge in real life spoke about Brock. Poor Brock didn’t mean it. Don’t ruin his bright future over this minor occurrence. It just reminded me of the old way of thinking.

Okay, I’ll stick with real life examples. I’m just trying to get some sort of discussion, and you don’t have to agree with me, clearly many of you do not, that older generations views on rape changed with time. That what was once considered acceptable (sex while under the influence) is not acceptable today. That is why there was victim blaming in the Accused movie and in real life, because she had been drinking and was flirty.

I’m talking about when the dark haired cutie says his girlfriend is upstairs drunk and he could violate her in many different ways if he wanted and then the blonde guy says what are you waiting for…

But that’s what I’m saying! That is what is in the scene in the movie, except it’s his girlfriend.

I’ve already stated, none of these things happened to me. I am just having a discussion. ETA, I’m a bit of a prude if you haven’t noticed.

I’m using the word “rape” and what I’m saying is that back then what was considered normal is now considered rape. Having sex with your drunk girlfriend could be deemed rape today while back in the 80’s and before was a wild night.

Skip to 3 minutes: This wasn’t shocking or irregular.

I think, I want you guys from my generation to think back on how some of the sexual behaviors of the time that were considered normal are now considered rape. Please don’t think I’m asking you to admit to participating in any act but just to compare and contrast the views of today and yesterday. Please don’t pretend that it was the same then as now.

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I didn’t make this up in my head. It is a fact that some people, due to the era, partially blamed the victim. I recall even in the Mike Tyson rape case not everyone believed the victim. Which highlights my point that rape, in the older generation’s mind, happens with a stranger or with evidence of violence.

110% Actually, this is why I’m here. Okay…please understand, I am 57 years old. Understand that when I was coming up, it was not seen as a crime to take advantage of a girl or woman in this way. It was seen as the fault of the girl. Honestly, it seems absurd, but when questioned the girl would be blamed not the boys. Think of it like leaving your wallet unattended in public, leaving your computer and cell phone visible in an unlocked car. People would automatically say you were foolish to think your valuables wouldn’t be stolen and sure, file a police report but what did expect. I know of 3 incidents specifically that happened. In one incident my friend in high school had a serious crush on a popular boy in school. She had a sexy physique as a freshman, her parents were not from this country so she was a bit different, her hair was very long and her clothes were maybe tighter than other kids because she wore hand me downs - I’m giving you the framework, not blaming her. He invited her over his house while his parents weren’t home. She thought it was just going to be him there but it was him and another boy who didn’t go to our school, a dropout. They took advantage of her and talked about it. She got a bad reputation from it. That’s how it was back then. The other incident involved 1 girl and 7 boys. In that case, I begged my friend to tell her parents and the police because she was clearly raped. She said to prevent herself from being brutalized she participated and was complaint so she couldn’t tell anyone. The last story was a girl, not my friend, was having sex with her boyfriend and during the act his friends stormed in and took advantage of her. She dropped out of school. Nothing was done to the boys.

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Sir, no one cares to celebrate abortions, women want the option to have them.

I think the problem is deep down Trump lovers (not simply followers or conservatives) are the same people who don’t want women to have abortions and are the same ones who wish to have 10 virgin wives under 16 years of age. ETA, I had a friend who was a millionaire and he said, none of those people needed to go to Jeffery Epstein to have sex with underage beautiful girls. He said they’re everywhere. He demonstrated how easy it was to order a woman (not child) from a modern day pimp. He said those men were not going to the island for sex. Sex was the atmosphere but business was the bottom line. He said the public is really gullible and distracted by the sex issue.

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This is why we need more education about black inventors and black contributions. There is NO war that blacks didn’t FIGHT in and many of the technological advances today were started by black Americans and without the labor of black slaves in the New World you all would still be working as impoverished peasants in Europe. Slavery made the United States the world’s largest economy. Slaves made the Americas and Europe rich. The profits of slavery were responsible for the growth and expansion of the United States-heck, all of them, South America and the Caribbean. And here are some important black inventors that helped make and shape the information technological age: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/famous-black-inventors-and-their-inventions/ But, white people are timely. I’ll give you that.

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