The Real timschochet

You are correct and the swastika is not illegal here, and it is used for Indian jewelry and in other ways. It IS however illegal in Germany because of its association to the Nazis. I think that’s reasonable, do you?

Your argument could be used against all forms of human judgment. Obviously power can always be abused. But at some point someone has to decide something. Oliver Wendell Holmes correctly pointed out that we can’t allow someone to yell “fire” in a crowded theater; therefore there has to be SOME limits on free speech. Who decides those?

But it also can create fear and violence, particularly in Germany.

I’m not opposed or pushing back against that. But we and Europe will have a say as well.

Lol along with half of all the small businesses in the United States. Go ahead and report us all. You’ll put the entire country out of business. (Actually what will really happen is that whoever you report this to will laugh in your face.)

There can reasonably be limits to free speech. For example, the swastika is banned in Germany. Given their history, I don’t think this is unreasonable. Incidentally it was the United States, during our occupation of western Germany in 1945, that first banned the swastika, and ever since then the German governments have wisely followed our example. Does someone here want to make an argument why it should not be banned? I’ll listen.

Well we’re involved as well.

No, because Trump has already said he wants NATO troops, with the exception of the U.S., to guarantee the peace, and wants European money, with the exception of the U.S., to help rebuild Ukraine. So if he wants these things then Europe gets to have a say.

States are not required to cooperate with federal policy. If ICE wants to round up non-violent undocumented people in California, they’re not going to get any help from our police or other authorities. And we will resist this effort. It’s called federalism.

Nothing’s happened yet. Whatever deal Trump tries to make with Putin will have to be agreed to by Ukraine and the surrounding countries.

Just remember this post when you challenge me to respond to you as you do several times a week.

Such as? List the items that will make a difference to our benefit.

They didn’t do the same thing. Sometimes they exceeded their power and the courts slapped them down, but in the end they obeyed the courts. Will Trump?

They absolutely bother me. What @HellToupee posted bothers me. But you agree with this neo-Nazi group that wants to evict all 5 million Muslims or kill them? Why is it either I have to agree with your completely awful, completely bigoted solution, or else I’m for rape and murder?!

You ought to be ashamed of yourself for disagreeing. Have you ever been in the Muslim section of Berlin? I have. Unless you know some of these people you should stfu. So should Vance.

I think you will be surprised when SCOTUS upholds most of these judges ruling against the Trump administration.

What does it mean to “oppose” the Muslim population. And how are the Muslims “destroying” Germany? There are 5.5 million Muslims in Germany, about 6% of the population. Most of them just want to live a quiet life there like the Jews did before World War II. Would you prefer to see another Holocaust? This is why guys like you disgust me. I doubt you’ve ever met a Muslim living in Germany. I have, several, business people from Berlin, originally from Turkey. You know nothing about them but you hate them and you’re sympathetic to bigots. You’re just ignorant.

Wikipedia is now a left wing source? See this is central to our problem. You don’t trust any of my sources so there is no way I can prove anything to you.

Pretty sure I stand above you.

Still waiting for an intelligent response from you. Waiting but not holding my breath.

Very little has been accomplished. Mostly a bunch of show. What HAS been accomplished doesn’t appear to be good for the country, though I am willing to keep an open mind. Let’s see how things look in 6 months.

It doesn’t seem to bother you or any other conservative around here that the law is apparently being broken. Interesting.

Yes far right Nazi. Do you know anything about this political party and what they stand for? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany

He told them that they need to pay more attention and respect to extreme neo-Nazi political parties. Sorry but that’s really lame advice.

Marco Rubio is correct here. I have no idea what this woman was talking about. Free speech weaponized? WTF? She is way off. That being said, JD Vance should be criticized for meeting with a far right German party that has embraced neo-Nazism. I mean WTF is that all about? And why is Elon Musk endorsing this party as well?