The Real timschochet

Federal judge shuts down what Trump and Musk are trying to do at USAID

I should add this is a clear case of federalism.

They will lose.

Federal judge pauses USAID terminations. excellent!

You have a bad habit of trying to ascribe your own presumed motives to the side you oppose, and you’re usually wrong. Liberals (and many conservatives and independents) are concerned about this because programs which really do a lot of good are being slashed, not just the wasteful elements. It also appears to be illegal in many cases.

I am glad to be compared to Peter Parker. Great hero of mine. “Shallow and superficial” correctly describes this entire enterprise. Which is a good thing.

https://www.wired.com/story/usaid-collapse-is-helping-criminal-scammers-enslave-people/ Those of you in favor of what is happening to USAID right now need to give up the pretense that you care about child trafficking.

I’ll do the best I can.

I don’t mind cutting corruption and waste. But this program has done a lot of good. 25 million lives saved in Africa alone. I can’t get past that no matter what arguments you make.

No because Obama didn’t publicize it and announce he was coming for them too.

Because it’s scaring a lot of good people (by that I mean nonviolent undocumented people.)

We shouldn’t and can’t. So no.

Well yeah. 25 million lives from PEPFAR alone: https://apnews.com/article/usaid-hiv-humanitarian-assistance-disease-spending-20f9cb969ffb6773e57886e34bf69165#:~:text=Known as one of the,million lives%2C largely in Africa.

I’m not sure what kind of analogy you’re referring to. In this case we’re shutting down a program that saved millions of lives around the world. What did Biden do that was analogous to that? How does shutting it down help fix the country? I’m honestly trying to understand your position but I don’t get it.

The Trump administration is on a pace to match half of Biden’s deportation numbers in 2024, and it won’t be close to the number of people deported under Obama, impressive! But at least you guys are having fun scaring the hell of people. That part is certainly happening.

Not with regard to USAID. Unfortunately he moved far too fast on this one. The damage has been done and it will take years to fix even if we (hopefully) decide to reverse it.

Eli average at best; no chance for HOF

Jasmine was on Rachel tonight and she was awesome. Totally destroyed the mass deportation argument and ICE and Trump in general. So good.

It isn’t. And Jasmine Crockett is awesome.

Thats why I wrote earlier that when you do this sort of thing (cut government waste) you need to use a scalpel not a hammer. But it’s not what they’re doing. They’re throwing out the good with the bad, it appears for ideological reasons, and a lot of folks are going to be hurt.

There is also this @shadrap: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/06/trump-usaid-money-american-farms/ “Administration’s gutting of USAID threatens billions for US farms, businesses” If this action has a serious negative impact on our economy, are we really saving any money?

Lots. 1. How does the US benefit by cutting off the aid to Africa and other poor nations that USAID helps? 2. Doesn’t the instability to other nations caused by ending USAID hurt our own stability which is key to our prosperity? 3. How are Americans better off if prices increase, which are the net result of most of Trump’s actions so far? 4. With a national debt of over 25 trillion, how does saving 40 billion (which won’t happen anyhow) impact the average American?

Probably so but it’s still a great song.

Are you willing to entertain the possibility that not all Palestinians are Hamas? Or is your condemnation for the entire population?

But see here once again we have the problem that we are seeing this through two different lenses. I am not for any “gangbangers” or violent criminals of any kind dodging ICE. I suspect neither is @squistion. However I am rooting for non-violent undocumented people dodging ICE in any way they can, because I think these people should be left alone by the government. I suspect this is what squistion thinks too. I know you disagree with me on this and that’s fine. But does it also make me a POS in your eyes? I hope it doesn’t.