The Real timschochet

My whole argument is that it will go back up over time. Obviously I can’t prove that to you. But remember this prediction: at the end of Trump’s term there will be more undocumented immigrants in this country than there are now. ETA my argument here isn’t much different from your argument about the Stock Market. Both are cyclical.

Lots of flaws in this argument, the biggest one being that all of the countries named in which walls “worked” (the old Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, Iran, China, North Korea) were or are police states. It wasn’t the wall going in or out that kept people in place as much as it was the intensive security of the entire state. Yes if you want to have that kind of police state here we could effectively prevent all undocumented immigration. I’m sure that a thug like Tom Homan wouldn’t mind; this is the sort of state he’s angling for. But it’s not consistent with the freedoms we enjoy.

They’re wrong. So are you. Sorry about that.

Yeah you’ve written this a bunch of times, and it’s bullsh!t every time. In this case the question is whether or not undocumented immigration can be curtailed in the long run strictly through security and not by addressing the greater issues which cause it. I say the answer is no and it’s an obvious no. I could offer plenty of lengthy reasoning to prove my point, statistics over years and such, but I shouldn’t have to. It should be common sense to anyone. If thousands of people are willing to leave their lives behind and risk everything to come here, they’re not going to be deterred by security alone no matter how many walls you put up, no matter how many police or military or ICE you send to the border, no matter how many people you round up to try and scare others into not coming. All of that will have an impact short term, but long term it will fail. They will find a way to come. If you want to prevent this, then you need to look at the reasons they are coming and try to fix those. But we never do.

The authoritarian playbook: 1. Attack the media. 2. Attack the courts. 3. Attack the universities. This is how you destroy democracy. Thankfully some of us see this and are fighting back even if the rest of you are gullible (or even welcome it.)

@Tebok keep up the good work. You’re facing a lot of stubborn people here who don’t want to admit that they were duped. Some never will.

I’m not sure you’re right about this. My sense is that these races are no longer about the specific candidates, but instead a referendum on Trump and Musk. I think Republicans are going to struggle in a lot of places they assumed were locks,

Don’t expect me to defend Garland. If he hadn’t hesitated to prosecute Trump (should have been done in February of 2021) we wouldn’t be in this mess. But he wasn’t partisan.

It’s not like I expected Pam Bondi to pursue a criminal investigation: yeah, right. But her explanation for not doing so is so shameless it’s laughable: https://apnews.com/article/fbi-pentagon-attack-plans-petraeus-clinton-comey-3ab3773b2642abaf024d3a5f3eb66f4b She is already, by far, the most partisan Attorney General in our history. It’s not even particularly close.

Heard this the other day, it’s an acoustic version of an old favorite: Almost has a Latin feel to it, very nice!

Have you listened to the Silver Jews, HT? 90s band, they had that Lou Reed/Dolls sound:

No. The left are just as hypocritical. They’re a little less bombastic about it, but then, who is more bombastic than Donald Trump? Personally I don’t believe in giving Presidents credit or fault for the economy as a general rule, unless you’re willing to look at it a year later. The tariffs are an exception; I fear they will bring down our economy and I think if that happens it will be fair game to hold Trump responsible.

I don’t disagree with this principle. But I don’t think it applies to tariffs; I don’t believe they will fix anything. I think they will cause pain short term in order to bring about greater pain long term. I also think your response here is interesting given your criticism of Joe Biden: Biden spent a lot of money at the start of his Presidency, knowing that it would risk inflation, because he thought it was the only way to get us out of the economic malaise that Covid caused. I think he made the right decision and in so doing he applied your principle of risking pain in order to fix a problem. And look at the result: the economy boomed during the last 18 months of his Presidency. Are you willing to concede he might have made the correct move?

The tariffs don’t give me hope, they give me heartburn. And “muscular with higher wages” aren’t the words I would use to describe what the economy is going to look like. Also: you attack my integrity here. I’ve written again and again that I want our economy to be prosperous and if it is I will congratulate President Trump and admit I was wrong about the tariffs. I hope that comes to pass. I hope even more he changes his mind again and doesn’t do them.

Maybe because Trump has taken credit for the market when it is high about a thousand times?

Are the tariffs on everything supposed to be part of that medicine?

No idea. It might have been in one of the garbage spewing hate filled sources you no doubt immerse yourself in. Maybe Stormfront?

Without due process? You’re damn right. Human says in the article he knows for a fact they are child predators. Fine. Show evidence to the court that this the case, and I’m all for sending them away. But I’m not taking this thug’s word; he is a proven liar. If they didn’t commit any violent or serious crimes they should not be deported. Coming here without documents is not a serious crime.

The JIDF was a right wing extremist group but it’s been defunct for 10 years. Your information is false as usual.

Per Harry Enten of CNN, public interest in this story has gone through the roof. The claim made here and elsewhere that nobody cares about this scandal is apparently a complete falsehood.

Trump’s nickname for Tuesday is “Liberation Day”

I’m sad you believe this. It’s not true.

Believe me when I say that I hope you’re right.

You’re correct that it doesn’t make sense. In fact it’s insane. But that’s what he’s doing.

It isn’t.