The Real timschochet

It will never be enforced. Doing so would destroy our economy.

Bit off your game today aren’t you? Usually you’re more subtle with the personal stuff.

Yeah well I get that but I take the opposite view. I’d rather Trump be perceived as a winner than to see this actually happen. I don’t want the pain this will cause in real time.

Thats the point- some of this is already happening. I heard an interview yesterday with leaders of the Navajo community in Arizona: they’re getting all kinds of harassment reports from members of their tribe.

So here is the strategy being advised by the ACLU. If a member of ICE approaches you and ask to see proof of your legal right to be here, be polite but ask “do you have a warrant with my name on it?” 90% of the time they won’t, and if they are obeying the law they will back off. Unfortunately some of these agents are currently not obeying the law, but asking the question is better than nothing. The ACLU is also advising that all Americans with dark skin carry proof of legal status at all times- this is burdensome but there is a lot of racial profiling going on and sure to continue in this terrible environment. And have the phone number of the ACLU offices on speed dial: they’re available 24/7. As I wrote they’re fighting the good fight.

That wasn’t the question.

Thats simply not true. https://worldmigrationreport.iom.int/what-we-do/world-migration-report-2024-chapter-3/latin-america-and-caribbean#:~:text=Gang-related violence and insecurity,internal and cross-border displacement. Beginning in 2020, the Covid pandemic sharpened the economic crisis already created by climate change to create a mass migration movement. I know you guys think this has to do with Biden’s border policies but there’s only so much we can do to control this. Right now things have calmed way down - all through 2024 we were at decade lows- but eventually climate change combined with the corrupt governments down there (which we either turn a blind eye to or directly cultivate) are going to create further crisis and no amount of security at the border will be able to stop it. The only way to stop it is to address the issues south of us, which we’re not doing.

I wrote “unless you can find a deliberate decision that directly caused this to happen.” You’re not providing one.

I predicted it will be performative. Mexico and Canada will agree to “cooperate.” Border encounters will go down until there is another crisis in Latin America at which point they will rise again. Fetanyl will continue to flow into this country unabated so long as the demand for it remains high.

I just did.

And I bet you’re full of sh!t.

Besides, the cost of mass deportation, even if it were possible, would be much higher than anything undocumented immigrants currently receive, at a huge detriment to us (right now their presence here remains an economic benefit to every American.)

I can’t read the article because it’s for subscribers. But the headline of it still doesn’t suggest what you quoted. Look I am sure that somewhere, sometimes, there are undocumented immigrants taking advantage of government aid. But I don’t think it’s very common. In California they are not eligible for SNAP (food stamp) benefits ; you have to have an I-94 and prof of legal residency. Even then I can tell you from the folks I’ve helped that SNAP is very little: around $1600 a month for a family of 5. There’s no welfare queens around here.

My prediction: right before these happen, Trump will announce that Mexico and Canada have “surrendered”, agreeing to help us with the borders. Very few details will be offered, and the MAGA crowd will cheer that the Alpha President strikes again and that tariffs work. I sure hope I’m right…

Love how you reference me. If this is actually happening I would be very much opposed to it. But I’m highly skeptical. Your source isn’t exactly reputable.

There are some. One of them has been trolling you for several years now. He waits until he sees you post and then immediately writes something about “bad hombres”. He knows it will get you every time.

There are also a fourth category: conservatives who aren’t racist but think that it’s amusing to pretend otherwise because they know it will trigger liberals. Plenty of them around here too.

No it’s illuminating. Let them go on. There are legitimate objections to DEI. There are many conservatives who are not racist who have a real problem with diversity programs. But there are also borderline racists who object to them, and there are out and out racists who object to them. At times it’s difficult to tell the difference between the non-racists, borderline racists, and full on racists around here. It’s nice that in this thread they’ve decided to clarify it for us.

You brought it up in this thread after Trump raised the DEI issue. You’re the one bringing up race. And I can’t tell if he’s qualified or not based on a heavily edited video. Per his experience he certainly is.

As usual you’re complaining about this but you’re only attacking those you disagree with, because you reek of hypocrisy. This should not be a political issue. Trump made it so. His supporters here have chosen to repeat his bullcrap. I’m responding to them because that’s where the discussion has gone. I didn’t take it there.

Thank you. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Washington He was selected to be an administrator with the FAA not in charge of it. He appears to have plenty of experience as an executive at several airports (see his resume.) He had absolutely nothing to do with ATC so even bringing him up in this thread makes no sense- unless because he’s black and you’re attempting to make a (racist) point about competence?

Your first complaint should be with the President for bringing up DEI. Then you should be upset with @Horseman and others for suggesting that race played a role here.

Who is he? What is his name so I can look him up?

It’s an edited video. Who is the guy being questioned? I don’t think he was ever the head of the FAA

Why don’t you call out @Horseman for his disgusting racism? Or do you agree with him?