The Real timschochet

Well you’re free to think what you want, I find your outrage here to be highly hypocritical and selective. Musk’s company saved some lives today. His actions in the last two months have cost many more. Where was your outrage when he openly encouraged Trump to end our acceptance of Afghan refugees trying to escape the Taliban? Some of those folks have already been sent back and put to death. Did you condemn Trump and Musk at the time like I did? Yeah I didn’t think so. Musk is a bad person. Try not to be one yourself.

I’m always concerned with the fed’s tactics. I don’t think there is ever an excuse for avoiding due process and when it is done I get suspicious. Not of conspiracies- I generally reject all conspiracy theories (like your crackpot one about the Jews planning 9/11). I get suspicious, not of conspiracies, but of bad actions committed where everyone can see them. I have a feeling this happened here.

The only “conditioning” I received on this subject is listening to Musk talk and reading his tweets. He has lied deliberately on a couple of subjects very important to me and his deliberate falsehoods make me believe he is a bad guy.

It’s not a particularly good one. Up to this point almost all of our space achievements have come from the public sector. That may change and I don’t mind if it does, but what you wrote has NOT been the norm when it comes to space. More importantly: Space X has received government subsidies for its entire existence. Without these it would not exist. So it’s only “private sector” in name.

I can’t disagree with you that the public likes a lot of of what he’s doing even if I don’t. But you’re right about the tariffs. They’re going to drag down his Presidency (unfortunately this country will suffer as well.)

To Trump’s credit, he was asked today by Laura Ingraham if he would willingly defy a judge’s court order. At first he hemmed and hawed saying there were bad judges out there that needed to be impeached. But Ingraham pressed him and ultimately Trump said “no you can’t do that.” https://www.wtnh.com/hill-politics/laura-ingraham-presses-trump-on-whether-hed-defy-a-court-order/amp/ Even Trump apparently isn’t willing to go that far (though as shown he will take it to the limit.) So I give him credit for this answer.

I get your dislike of me but I don’t understand how anything I’ve written here makes me a “piece of sh!t”. Because I dislike Musk and consider him a bad guy? I’ve got pretty good reasons for that.

No. I support the boycott. Not any acts of violence.

I don’t recall ever talking about Musk until he got involved in politics.

I am opposed to all acts of political violence in this country. It shouldn’t need to be said.

I’m glad the astronauts were rescued. But Musk is a liar and a bad person. That hasn’t changed. So I’m impressed by the Tesla boycott and I hope it continues.

So long as your arguments keep coming down to “let’s avoid due process” you have no credibility. I don’t have to answer any of your challenges. You’re on the wrong side.

Tesla losing tons of money: https://wgnradio.com/john-williams/tom-appel-elon-musks-association-with-politics-has-hurt-the-tesla-brand/amp/ Hopefully this will last or get even worse.

No. It doesn’t. Zelensky is not a mass murderer or dictator. WTF are you talking about??

How do we know they did what they said they did? They’ve been caught lying recently: a LOT. What is wrong with a little due process to make sure?

The biggest Democratic dilemma is who should we choose to be President in 2028? Lots of good choices and one will be sworn in. Who will it be?

Confirmed by who?

@Ron_Artest is literally one of the least hateful people on this board. For one thing he’s not MAGA. For another he opposes bigotry and racism. He’s fighting the good fight; you should support that.

What if they’re not illegal at all? What if some of them, or even one of them, is a citizen? How would you know if there is no due process? It amazes me how you guys are willing to give up basic protections.

Probably a few Catholics too. I’m not picky.

And I don’t want to see ALL WASPS gone- just the MAGA crowd, the white supremacists, the bigots, etc. We could remove them all in the middle of the night and call it “The Rapture”.

He’d have to take the year off. Or decade. His embarrassment level is beyond redemption at this point.

Not at all. I love WASPs, I’m married to one. But since they’re the ones shouting loudest to deport other groups, I figure they should go first.

I base my analysis on what the White House is telling me. Are they lying?

Not yet but if we’re gonna have to deport somebody I’d be good with them going first.