The Real timschochet

My father arrived here in 1950. Ellis Island

About 7% of all rulings get reversed on appeal. In terms of the Supreme Court, it’s less than 2%. So no judges aren’t always right. But they’re USUALLY right. And when Trump gets slapped down on over a dozen times in a single month, that’s how you know he’s an unlawful clown. And that’s how we know in this forum that YOU are a clown for continually supporting his moves.

Nope things change. Laws need to be modified. But the core principles remain the same. We are a nation of immigrants, the shining city on the hill, the refuge of the hungry, the tired, the poor. If we ever lose that then we lose our national identity.

Three Imgainary Boys, Jumping Someone Else’s Train. Great stuff .

“judge slaps down Trump” Seems to be a pattern. Will Trump’s supporters ever realize what a corrupt law breaking clown he is?

The courts disagree.

That’s because you want to exclude whole groups of people from coming to this country, and you don’t want to admit that such an attitude is inherently bigoted. So you need to dismiss any arguments to the contrary. I get it. But you’re wrong, Mark is wrong, anyone who holds this bigoted view is wrong, Since I don’t think you guys are really bigots, I’m confident that someday you’ll realize the flaws in your thinking. In the meantime the ACLU will keep slapping down your boss.

You can’t break the law trying to deport this guy. He gets due process. The ends don’t justify the means. Sorry buddy.

Lol. I’m fine dude. And I stand by my logic. Read it again.

He’s certainly not dumb. I think he’s lying to himself. Like so many other conservatives he’s become invested in winning an overall struggle for our culture so he’s willing to overlook Trump breaking the rules.

Trump’s attempt to bypass due process to deport Venezuelans is similar to this effort - in both cases he is trying to go around the law and his supporters seem to be good with it. This is why I support the ACLU so that Trump will get slapped down in these attempts.

They don’t count if you’re trying to make a broader point. They count if you’re trying to disprove a broader point. Do you see the difference? I was making an argument against the idea that we should exclude all Palestinians from emigrating to this country. It’s amazing to me that I should even have to refute such a notion, but in order to do so all I need to do is bring up an anecdote. If on the other hand I was trying to prove that all or most Palestinian immigrants to the USA are good people, one anecdote would not suffice.

You guys can keep trying to twist this in order to maintain your delusions but it won’t fly. Nobody has a problem with deporting violent gang members WITH DuE PROCESS. He’s trying to deport people without due process. That won’t fly. He tried it and got slapped down.

Yeah I donate hundreds of dollars each year in order to save around $10 each year (maybe). You’ve figured me out!

The ACLU is doing good work fighting Trump’s deportation efforts: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c89yk405lg9o.amp My money has been well spent, I will have to contribute more.

Well to be fair among extreme libertarians (I’ve been libertarian at times but never extreme) this is indeed a popular point of view. Which is why I wrote that it’s extremely offensive. I will grant you that your point about it coming from a dude who has relied on government for virtually ALL of his wealth is shameless.

You’re collectivizing. And it’s wrong. I have a Palestinian tenant in one of the shopping centers I manage. An auto mechanic shop. Nicest guy. I’ve met his family before. Very sweet. Now I’ve never discussed politics with him so maybe he’s a pro-terrorist. I’ve no idea. But he quietly operates a business, pays his rent. He knows I’m Jewish. Never been anything but friendly. Now you’re saying we shouldn’t have these folks in our country based on the off chance that they might be terrorist or terrorist sympathizers? Perhaps I’m what you’d consider a bleeding heart but that’s unacceptable to me. It’s NOT what this country is supposed to be about. We treat everyone as an individual no matter where they’re from.

Well technically he didn’t. Hitler never grabbed a gun and shot anyone; he never operated a gas chamber or crematorium; so far as we know he never visited a concentration camp. BTW Musk’a actual statement wasn’t just about Hitler; it was about Hitler, Stalin and Mao. Which I think strengthens my interpretation of it. Musk is saying that in each case it was the state apparatus that actually carried out these crimes. LOL and before any conservative around here tries to give me props again or thanks me for my “intellectual honesty” just keep in mind that I regard what Musk actually meant here to be just as offensive.

It’s a pretty basic question, and I’m asking it of conservatives in this forum. I’m not making any arguments or judgments. The right wing in Congress does not want to go along with the deal that Mike Johnson agreed to. They are demanding: 1. A return to Remain in Mexico, Trump’s other policies on the border, and funding for a complete wall across the southern border. 2. Severe cuts to the spending package, including the stoppage of all monies going to sanctuary cities until these cities end their sanctuary city status. 3. No more money for Ukraine. These Republicans, led by Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene, represent a minority of the House but there are enough to prevent a deal being reached. They will not agree to any deal without these 3 points and would rather see the government shut down. My question to conservatives here is: do you agree with them? Or do you think that Mike Johnson’s compromise should be accepted? Or do you have another solution in mind?

Well like I wrote- you needn’t worry about what I think, or what Dems say. The only way this matters is if regular folks start to feel negatively affected. If they don’t then all of my complaints won’t matter for sh!t.

Scroll up buddy. I posted you a link. Here’s more: https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/regulatory/medicaid-faces-severe-cuts-new-budget-framework

This is why I get suspicious of people who focus so much on transgenders and gays. The ones who shout the loudest always turn out to be guilty of something. Frigging always.

It probably does to you. But I’m betting you’re guilty of double standards. I’m betting you’re willing to excuse Americans of war crimes that you condemn others for.

@Gepetto the article you posted makes the guy sound like an extremist, a fanatic, a bad person, not somebody I would prefer to be around. But it doesn’t justify deporting him. Not to me. It’s not enough; there has to be something more. Maybe there is. But it wasn’t in the article. Please keep in mind that when I write this I am not trying to defend this dude. I don’t care about him, or what happens to him. I only care about our system of justice and defending it.

Shall we start with wherever you’re from? You’ve openly wished for violence for people here and our families. Shall we deport you? Based on the logic of many here we can and should.