The Real timschochet

This breaks my heart. I haven’t discussed it here, and I won’t get into any details, but I’ve spent the last several months working with World Relief and WelcomeCorps helping a refugee family near me. It was all volunteer work, I spent my own time and money helping the family find an apartment, work, medical, get the kids in school, etc. My whole family chipped in. I wanted to do something more than simply donate money to causes I believe in; I wanted to play a part. It was the most rewarding experience of my life. Now that is all done. With a stroke of the pen President Trump has cancelled the entire program. I’m sure many of you, like @Strike, think this is good news. I find it terribly sad and shameful. This is not what the USA is supposed to be about. It’s not in keeping with the Statue of Liberty. It’s a disgrace IMO. Hopefully, one day soon we’ll find our way again. Some of us will keep fighting for it.

DEIDS stands for DEI Derangement Syndrome. It’s a the new pandemic, rampant among conservatives these days. There appears to be no cure.

One of your main flaws (there are many) is that you believe that it’s only liberals who reject your nutty conspiracy theories. It isn’t. Sane conservatives and independents also think this stuff is off the deep end.

This will never happen.

Nobody has a problem with deporting violent criminals.

Agreed that we need to start fresh but the way to do that is to grant amnesty to most of those already here. By doing that we don’t disrupt current prices and we create revenue by making these people legal and paying income taxes. Then we can regulate who comes in next. But what Trump is proposing here (deporting millions and coming up with a guest worker plan afterwards, maybe) is insane. It will never work. Even to try seriously will cause intense chaos (which is why I think this is all for show.)

Oh but he’s not the only one. @Horseman, @Hardcore troubadour, a few others. I have a whole fan base.

Well there must be some other reason then. You come off like an obsessed fan. It’s not healthy,

Yesterday @Strike bumped one of his own posts tagging me because a few hours had gone by and I hadn’t yet responded. So frigging desperate.

So funny to me that the usual suspects who are always saying that nobody cares about my opinions are the same ones who respond to almost every one of my posts, and when I haven’t posted in a while, tag me.

Then why do you mention my opinions and tag me?

Some of Biden’s other policies helped drive prices up but I didn’t complain about them because I believed they were necessary to extricate us out of the bigger crisis of the COVID economy. I still believe that and think that he was successful, and will go down in history as a successful President.

Biden’s tariffs drove prices up and I complained about them. Trump’s tariffs will be way worse.

I don’t believe either will happen in our lifetimes

You seem to think these tariffs will be an alternative to income tax. I don’t think that’s happening.

Cave how? We have free trade agreements with Canada and Mexico- Trump renegotiated them himself. What are you expecting them to do now? Trump’s vague demand is that they help us with border control. No specifics offered. That’s why this is madness.

Even if you don’t care, most people will. And if most people are hurt by this then you won’t be able to escape being negatively affected yourself. That’s how trade inevitably works.

Yes!! https://www.iea.org/news/a-new-era-for-nuclear-energy-beckons-as-projects-policies-and-investments-increase This article calls for an investment of 240 billion. But that’s cheap compared to the potential return. Why isn’t Trump talking about this? Why hasn’t he said one word about it? I and many other liberals would support him if he did. (Well at least I would.) I would also love to see a Manhattan Project like effort to pursue nuclear fusion. What is more important? Nothing.

The list I just posted is only of the items most affected and it is VERY incomplete. If we consider that the likeliest result of these tariffs is that the 3 countries affected will retaliate with new tariffs in kind then we can expect all sorts of unforeseen consequences, along with increased unemployment, etc. Keep in mind that though we have had tariffs before, both during Trump and Biden, we have NEVER had anything close to 25% tariffs on our two largest trading partners. It will be the largest tariffs in our history, bigger than Smoot-Hawley. I believe that if it lasts it will bring our currently booming economy to a grinding halt.

Only 10%. 90% of the avocados Americans consume come from Mexico.

Here is a list of the items that will go way up: Sneakers Furniture Toys Automobiles Beer Avocados Coats French Fries https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/20/trump-tariff-news-products-and-companies-most-at-risk.html

Blackstone’s ratio: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone's_ratio#:~:text=Historic expressions of the principle,-The immediate precursors&text=Some 300 years before Fortescue,single innocent one to death." Better that ten guilty men are acquitted than one innocent man go to prison. However in this case the ratio is the opposite and more, because the vast majority of those being apprehended are not violent criminals. Which is why I have always supported Sanctuary Cities.

I’m good with mine.

Yes. One of the very many reasons I didn’t vote for him. Do you think this is a good idea?

We are living in a time of bigotry and ugliness. We’ll get through it.