The Real timschochet

You’re right, I don’t personally have data that shows what percentage of prominent cases of rape and sexual abuse are falsely charged. I doubt such data exists. But tell me do you accept Jon’s assertion that it’s over 50%? Because personally I find that an absurd notion. What do you think?

This is a false assertion and it’s extremely damaging. That many people may now believe you demonstrates why what this woman did was so harmful.

I actually think she’s helped ruined thousands of lives. We already know that the majority of sexual abuse and rape cases are never reported because many women are afraid of being called liars or attacked. Stories like this one make them less likely to come forward, and even more so if race is involved.

Doesn’t do much for me. There’s something different about Sweeney.

Your post has been deleted. I am not appeased.

Well according to you I’m only a shell of my former self, but what the heck I’ll give it a try anyhow: 1. No. Fauci didn’t fund anything. There was no personal check. He was part of a team that authorized money sent to the Wuhan lab but my understanding is that this was part of long standing U.S. policy approved by several Presidents including Trump. As to the second part of this question (what the money was used for) I have no idea but I do know that Fauci and the CDC dispute your claim. 2. No idea. 3. No idea but Fauci and many other scientists claim it is not. I am not a scientist and am not prepared to argue the point. I strongly suspect however that other non-scientists who are making this claim are politically motivated.

You guys are so distorted about this. But then so is Rand Paul. I mean you gotta pull back and realize this is crazy crazy stuff.

The vast majority of those women who accuse men of rape are telling the truth. This woman is a very rare example of the opposite. Unfortunately she will be used by sexists everywhere, as well as racists.

And you’re even worse than @Gepetto. No response to what I wrote about Fauci. You need to respond to that first, and show me why I am wrong and that you’re not insane for calling him a mass murderer. Or admit that you’re full of crap. Once you’ve addressed that then I will address your false BS about the New York Trump trial.

You can’t refute a single point I made and yet you continue with this nonsense. It’s dishonest.

I keep opening this thread hoping somebody linked another hot photo of Sydney Sweeney. Instead all I get is talk. You guys suck.

Let me offer an analogy: It was US policy during the 1930s to contribute money to several German large businesses as part of technological research that would benefit both countries. This aid included the chemical firm IG Farben. During this period, IG Farben developed an insecticide known as Zyklon B. Years later, Zyklon B was used at the gas chambers at Auschwitz to exterminate millions of people. Based on the logic of this thread, Franklin Roosevelt, who was head of government at the time we sent money to IG Farben, is therefore responsible for the Holocaust. See how crazy that sounds? And let’s go a step further: I named FDR because I don’t have any idea who the head of the agency was who sent money to Germany; ultimately it’s the head of state who has to be responsible. The same rule would apply today. Dr Fauci or other scientists might recommend money sent to Wuhan but in the end it happened under Trump’s watch, right? So why isn’t Donald Trump a mass murderer?

I get that. We’ll never know fully for sure but it’s a real possibility, or even probability, that it came from the Wuhan lab. Thats why I wrote “almost all” and not all. Again, even if it came from the Wuhan lab, in order for Fauci to be a mass murderer you would still have to prove that (1) it was his decision alone to send money to that lab, and not US policy established over several years (b) that the money we sent there contributed significantly to the development of this virus and (c) that all this was deliberate. I don’t believe that ANY of this is true, but you’re welcome to prove it.

Trump made the same claim this Sunday. But it’s not an invasion and that won’t fly under the law.

Way to attempt to move the goalposts and change the subject. And anyhow the jurors in the Trump hush money case heard the evidence and found Trump guilty. As they should have because it was clear that he committed the crimes described. So you can make all the general statements you want but it doesn’t change the facts of that case.

I thought we were talking about using the military for mass deportation. You’re changing the subject.

Of course it’s debatable. He acknowledges that money was given to the Wuhan lab. He does not agree that it was given for “gain of function” because the CDC defines that term differently from members of Congress relying on one scientist who is not in the majority. In order to prove that Fauci lied, you would have to prove that his stated opinion on this issue is not just wrong (which is highly in dispute) but also DELIBERATELY wrong. And I don’t think you can do that. The assertion that Fauci is a mass murderer is even more absurd. First you would have to prove that it was his decision to send money to the Wuhan lab, rather than a joint official government policy which had been going on for years. Second you have to prove that our monetary contributions to Wuhan contributed significantly to the Covid 19 virus. Third you would have to prove that the Covid 19 virus was in fact a product of the Wuhan labs. Finally you would have to prove that any of this was done deliberately with malice aforethought. NONE of this is proven; almost all of it is extremely unlikely. So if the Trump folks really want to go after Fauci I say bring it on. They’ll only look foolish as @Jon_mx does here.

BTW one point of correction- it’s not the leftist orthodoxy that defines my position on these migrants- it’s the libertarian orthodoxy. To me it’s a question of capitalism. It’s the same reason I’m for free trade.

Completely off topic but since you brought it up: The last time I was in Europe none of the stores I visited wanted to accept my American Express card. They kept asking me if I could Visa instead because the charges were so high. It made me wonder what’s the point of having Amex?

As I said yesterday I’m actually closer to you than may appear. I would like to see things more orderly as you would. The problems we see are the same, though I think you exaggerate certain aspects of it and you obviously think I don’t appreciate them enough. Thats OK. Where we differ strongly is that I can’t go with our new President’s proposals to solve these issues. If you can then I’m afraid we’re at a moral impass.

It’s possible to offer good natured insults from time to time without wishing violent death on someone or their family members. Perhaps take this as a lesson?

Well you’re the expert.

Well that depends yon who you are. A smart person would question whether or not it’s really a desirable goal to round up innocent people in the first place.

You seem like a smart and good dude but you’ve fallen into the trap on this question of blaming these mostly poor and innocent people for all of our woes. Sadly this is a disease that seems to have infected most of our nation at this time. It will have to run its course. I hope things don’t get too ugly.

Ah yes the usual classy comment by Hardcore. I suppose I should be grateful that this time it’s me that’s the target and not one of my daughters.