The Real timschochet

But they would be stylish!

You’re rather patronizing, don’t you think? Of course we can’t survive without trade. What modern nation could?

Touché. And thank you. All I’m saying is that California would survive just fine as an independent state. Thrive even. I have no desire to secede.

Oh well have a military. Along with a full nuclear arsenal. After all it was our people at Berkeley and Cal Tech that invented the damn things. And we’ll have an Air Force- it’s our aerospace industry that supplies it. Nobody’s invading California. And if there was ever a civil war, we’d kick your asses too. It’s funny that you think you’re defending us. We’re defending YOU.

Benefits? Ive never been much into this whole secession thing but California is the one state that could survive independently of the United States. We’d be just fine.

OK let’s make a deal. We in California will pay nothing to the federal government and in return we get nothing back. Sound good to you? It does to me.

Obviously as a centrist Democrat I hate the very things you love about the Trump movement. I detest this move away from globalism towards nativism and isolationism. But hey you win for now. So be it.

It happens every time a loss occurs. Remember after Romney lost, the Republican “autopsy”? Then they nominated Trump. All the Democrats really have to do is stick around and be the alternative. The Republicans will have 4 years, maybe 8 if they don’t blow it. Then the Democrats will be back to Fock things up again until the next cycle. There’s never going to be a permanent victory here.

This is all second guessing. The public didn’t reject Kamala Harris per se, they rejected the incumbency. IMO (as of now, not my opinion a week ago) the Dems could have put up a combination of FDR, Obama and Jesus Christ and they still would have lost.

Once again the concert I saw (I get it, very anecdotal) was largely people in their early 20s and older. I’ve been with my daughters to what I would call “teen” concerts; this wasn’t one of them. Plus her music since Folkore is much more adult oriented, more Joni Mitchell than Ariana Grande- that’s what made me a fan.

Having gone to a Swift concert this summer (in Amsterdam of all places) I can guarantee you this isn’t accurate.

I was wrong.

It might be better for you- temporarily- but it’s not better for the nation. The key to economic prosperity is to have trade taxed as low as possible and instead tax income earned. That’s capitalism 101.

Could very well be. I live in a very red district- not the reddest in California by any means but close. I didn’t vote for Baugh but he’s certainly the favorite.

7. Not sure what this means. 8. Release the hostages. Recognize the State of Israel. Respect free elections in Gaza. Then we can talk. Like the Taliban and Putin I regard Hamas as evil. They can prove me wrong by doing these things and they can have peace overnight if they do. 9. I started a thread about bitcoin a while back because I wanted to understand it better. I still don’t, but my suspicion remains that this is a pyramid scheme. Still if there are millions of investors involved then I’m happy for them; I don’t like it when anyone loses money. So I hope the prosperity lasts. Other than that I’m indifferent. 10. Always good news. Overall it’s been doing well for a few years now. Let’s keep it going.

4. Discourage? What does this mean? As I’ve written before these are desperate people fleeing starvation with nowhere to go. If we ultimately don’t want them to come here then we need to figure out another solution. 5. What does this accomplish? So now they won’t eat? Do you think this will increase or decrease the chance of crime? 6. When didn’t they? Again they can prove it by offering better trade deals, by pledging not to invade Taiwan, by keeping their promise to respect Hong Kong’s independence, by releasing their political prisoners, by pressuring their main client state, North Korea, to do similar things. If Trump can achieve all of this or many of this, he will be a great President. Why not? I’m hopeful.

Some of these are hopeful signs , some not so much. Let’s break them down: 1. I would have rather had a first female President, but this is fine. She seems very capable and insisted on more authority than his previous chiefs. So I’m optimistic. Fun fact: does everyone know by now she is the daughter of Pat Summerall? 2. I’m sure they do. Let them stop acting like terrorists first. Also would help if they weren’t one of the most evil, repressive governments in modern history. But small steps right? 3. Putin is a murderer and his invasion of Ukraine has cost the lives of hundreds of thousands. Let him end the war and pledge to respect the sovereignty of those nations around him and we can have peace. If Trump can achieve that more power to him.

So you don’t believe that inflation was the main reason?

This thread isn’t about the campaign.

The federal government has the power and the responsibility to control our borders, and regulate immigration. But as regards undocumented immigrants already here? I’m not sure they have the legal right to deal with that. They certainly don’t have the right to force local authorities to cooperate with them. Example: let’s say next year the head of ICE demands that the chief of police of San Francisco turn over lists of all persons living there suspected to be undocumented immigrants, so that they can begin deportation. The Chief of police says “sorry but Governor Newsom has instructed me to refuse to give you that information.” It goes to court and ultimately to the Supreme Court. Who wins? I suspect the state of California wins.

Here’s the deal: the main reason that Trump won so resoundingly is because inflation. The public wants prices to come down and didn’t believe Harris could do it. They don’t give a crap about retribution. I know you do but they don’t. If Trump focuses on retribution he may make conservatives like you happy but for most people it will be regarded as overreach. Right now Trump has real opportunities to put through some things that conservatives have always believed will benefit the country, like deregulation and a transformed energy policy. Now is your chance. Dont blow it on revenge or Democrats will take control right back.

Ahahahahahaha Give me “things conservatives never say unless one of their own is President” for $500 please

That would require a Constitutional amendment. Ain’t gonna happen.

Elon? He should know better

I’m not interested in betting on something I want desperately to lose. So no.