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Seeking an emergency stay. https://www.newsweek.com/snap-benefits-november-2025-update-donald-trump-judge-shutdown-11011321 “Don’t force me to feed hungry people! I need to punish Democrats”. This is what you voted for.

Last night a judge ordered Trump to pay out the SNAP benefits in full. Now Trump is seeking an emergency stay: https://www.newsweek.com/snap-benefits-november-2025-update-donald-trump-judge-shutdown-11011321 Great look.

You’re right. My bad.

OK i overstated it about the ATC. My bad. But my point is that this was a deliberate decision by Duffy, they didn’t have to cancel these flights: https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/05/us/airport-traffic-cuts-government-shutdown

If you cancel flights then the ATC guys are not working. Thats all I’m saying here.

It was the Trump administration decision to shut down flights. They weren’t forced to do it. And they’re targeting flights in Democratic cities.

Trump and Duffy.

Bullsh!t. They were ordered not to work. This is on Trump.

But they were given papers. He never imported any undocumented immigrants. That’s a lie. The two murderers you brought up weren’t part of this program. That’s a lie too. Admit it.

Have the air traffic controllers refused to work? Are they on strike until the shutdown ends? Or were they ordered not to work?

The scary thing here is that a lot of Trump’s craziness has nothing to do with dementia. He’s always been like this.

This would be true except that you’ve never come up with a single example of me lying. You’ve shown times where I was wrong about stuff. I’ll own that. Sometimes I forget stuff I wrote months or years before. I’ll own that too. But deliberate lying? Never. On the other hand you’re deliberately lying in this thread by accepting @HellToupee’s argument, which is clearly false. @Strike who also accuses me constantly of lying, lies all the time, including this thread and another thread just the other day. It’s a pattern with you guys.

If they were on probation, they were given papers. They came in legally. You may disagree that they were allowed in but they are NOT ILLEGAL, they are NOT UNDOCUMENTED. That is why what you wrote is a lie. And I strongly doubt that the two murderers you mentioned at the start of the discussion were part of this program, which makes it an even bigger lie.

If you agree with @Strike you’re as big as a liar as he is. But we already knew that. Biden didn’t fly any undocumented immigrants into this country. He didn’t import any undocumented immigrants into this country. As usual you guys are spreading falsehoods and it’s pretty ugly garbage, reflecting nothing but your ignorance and bigotry.

He literally didn’t import anyone without documents. Talking about making sh*t up. You’re just lying, as usual.

Yes it is. President Biden didn’t import any undocumented immigrants. It’s a lie.

This part is a lie.

Judge rules that SNAP benefits must be released; Trump’s Justice Department is appealing. I gotta say nothing helps public approval like appealing having to release SNAP benefits. JFC

So here’s what I think is going to happen Tuesday night. (Keep in mind that my political predictions are right about 80% of the time. My sports predictions not so much.) 1. Prop. 50 in California, which will give the state about 5 more Democratic leaning Congressional districts, will win easily, perhaps over 60%. 2. The Democratic nominee for governor in Virginia will win easily. She will carry the Democratic candidate for attorney general over the top though that will be closer. 3. The Democratic nominee for governor in New Jersey will win by an easier margin than is currently projected- perhaps 5-8%. Just as important in terms of long term projections, a significant number of Latino voters in New Jersey who abandoned the Democratic Party in 2024 for Donald Trump will return to the fold. 4. Mamdani will win by the largest margin of all. 70% or higher is possible. In other words, Democratic victories everywhere. This is not however any kind of sign that the Democratic Party is healthy or popular- it’s not. The public by and large can’t stand the Democratic Party and truthfully they have good reasons. That’s not going away. But Tuesday night, and I believe a year from now as well, Democrats are going to win big because the public is rejecting Donald Trump.

Not at all. I’m pretty sure she’s been engaged in insider trading. Nobody however has any proof. Does that put a blot for me on her record? Of course. Does it change my estimation of her as the greatest Speaker ever? It doesn’t. Does it in any way excuse the shameful and juvenile and offensive attacks made against her and her husband here and elsewhere? It does not. And it’s really hard to take you guys seriously when you defend every corrupt thing the President does.

If somebody proves it fine. Right now it’s all innuendo. But if you’re going to go after people for this stuff go after all of them regardless of party. Right now it APPEARS that our current President is more corrupt than anyone in the history of American politics by far- but again, all innuendo. But even if Nancy Pelosi were proven to be a criminal, found guilty and sentenced to prison, it would not change my estimation of her amazing effectiveness as Speaker.

Not really. I don’t think that most of the ideas I don’t like will be enacted, so I’m not worried about that. But outside of economics I like a lot of the stuff he’s for, particularly when it comes to immigration issues. And I like him. I’ve heard him interviewed and I generally think he’s a good guy. So I’m rooting for him to succeed. Keep in mind, however, that I root for President Trump to succeed as well, even though I don’t like him and don’t think he’s a good guy, because he is my President.

The comments in this thread are unsurprising and shameful. But on the other hand they’re also a testimony to the achievements of this remarkable woman. There is a reason why so many conservatives can’t stand her.

Look if Trump is right about the economic benefits of tariffs let him convince Congress. He’s got a Republican House and Senate for another year. Should be easy.

I am not. But I am also of the opinion that they don’t do as much damage as you might think. I am indeed a capitalist. But I will hammer the point over and over: the most important aspect of capitalism is free trade. When there is a free or lightly restricted flow of goods, the amount of socialist benefits that a government imposes won’t do that much harm. This is not my idea; I learned it from Milton Friedman, Ludwig Von Mises, and to a certain extent, Ayn Rand. Friedman in particular made the point that he was willing to support Democratic politicians who were in favor of the New Deal and the Great Society so long as they supported lower tariffs. Because he understood the principle. Of the “arsenic” Mamdani is proposing, the most poisonous is anything to do with price controls: rent control, the supermarkets , etc, assuming he can actually do it (which seems doubtful based on the article above I linked.) But the fact that it would be limited to New York City makes the damage minimal IMO. To put it another way: it’s estimated that Trump’s tarrifs will cost every American household around $2,400 a year, including New Yorkers. (https://www.americanprogress.org/article/8-ways-trumps-turbulence-tax-is-costing-the-economy/ Now if Mandami gets everything he wants, he might initially save New Yorkers around $500. But you and I know that this savings won’t last; price controls don’t work, eventually the New Yorker who thought he was saving $500 will end up paying $700. But compared to the tariff cost of $2400, the loss of $200 isn’t really worth discussing and it will hardly bring about the apocalypse. Priorities.