The Real timschochet

Of course. Its not a huge issue though. The market adjusts for it one way or the other.

He does. Trump surrenders: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna189852 lololol

Then let me make it real simple for you: I am a capitalist. I believe, as much as possible, in unfettered free market capitalism, because it is both the most effective system and because it’s morally right. Socialism is well meaning but doesn’t work; Communism is evil. All of my stances on immigration, trade, minimum wage, etc., are rooted in this conviction.

These arguments are really stupid. Look if you think the condom thing is real then offer some evidence that it’s real. Some kind of confirmation, something. They didn’t.

You just realized that, Captain Oblivious?

I do want to stress though that just because I personally don’t pay undocumented people “under the table”, or below minimum wage, doesn’t mean I see anything wrong with either. If I was in certain businesses, such as roofing, flooring, general contractor, restaurants, etc., then of course I would hire these folks and pay them in cash. How else would I stay competitive? This is why I continue to assert that there is not a single person reading this that doesn’t benefit greatly from the presence of undocumented immigrants in this country. If you don’t think you do then you’re just lying to yourself.

OK this is wrong on so many levels that I feel I must explain further, so here goes. The ONLY time that I ever hire people I assume to be undocumented (I don’t ask) is once or twice a year. Let’s say somebody dumps a bunch of crap in the alley at one of the centers I manage. Usually it’s furniture like an old sofa. So I drive to Home Depot a few blocks away, find a couple of guys with a truck, ask them to follow me. When we get to my center I tell them I want the sofa removed. One of them looks at it and says “$100”. That’s about what I figured. I pay the guy out of my wallet. I don’t ask for anyone’s permission. Ten minutes later the sofa is gone. You do the math on how much I paid him per hour. Now in legal terms I have hired an independent contractor. So long as I don’t pay him in excess of $600 per year, I don’t have to report it. Since I only do this sort of thing a few times a year and I don’t think I’ve ever used the same guy twice, it’s never been an issue. Hopefully this explains everything. Those of you who called me a liar can now kindly fock off.

Yep. Sometimes it averages out a little more.

I pay them cash. Legally I’m allowed to do so without reporting it if the total sum doesn’t exceed $600 a year. It never does.

I have no idea who to believe on this. Of course such a story is possible; there’s tons of stupid waste in our government. But the Trump folks have offered no evidence; that’s why I wrote that it MAY be total bullsh!t. That wouldn’t surprise me because the Trump people make up crap out of thin air.

I’ve never been given that choice. If a documented person wants to stand outside Home Depot looking for work, more power to them. But they don’t. When I need work done I need it done quickly.

Your list is evidence that I’m right. Because an undocumented immigrant is not comparable to ANY of these, and should not be regarded in the same category.

I don’t hire them to save money. How many times do I have to repeat this? I hire them to save TIME.

I’ve stated again and again that I hire undocumented people from time to time because they’re convenient. Because when I need day labor a few times a year they’re available. But I typically pay a pretty hefty sum, usually around $50 an hour.

So what? Why is that such a crime? In the recent past it was considered a misdemeanor. In the not recent past it wasn’t a crime at all. It certainly doesn’t make someone a criminal for doing it. Not in my book. I admire them: they risk everything to come here.

Again you’re wrong both about me, and with regard to the facts about undocumented immigrants and “freebies”.

You have a major misunderstanding about me. I don’t pay people lower wages than what the government requires. I’m simply defending the people that do. But I don’t break the law myself.

You’re right about the hypocrisy, but business owners don’t create the demand; American consumers do. Capitalism does. People want the most value for the money they spend, always will.

So stupid. Most of them don’t get any “freebies”.

27 is old enough to know better. Even a 10 year old should know that an undocumented immigrant is not by definition a “criminal” any more than a jaywalker is. It’s absurd and offensive.

I think the 50 million in condoms to Gaza story, which so many of you have posted about here, may be total bullsh!t. Trump’s team has provided no evidence whatsoever and Biden officials say it’s completely false.

My opinion of Donald Trump’s language and behavior is not predicated on the language and behavior of other people.

Maybe later. It’s a liberal solution, and I won’t surprise you. We can discuss it at another time.

You’re correct my bad. He did say migrants poisoned the blood of the country. So I don’t see much of a distinction. I suppose as an added question I would ask her if he still regards his opponents as vermin.

All class as usual.