The Real timschochet

I already know your position. I find it extreme and unworkable.

I realize that what I am proposing may be against the Constitution. I am advocating for a permanent green card status. I think it’s the best solution. And no I have no hidden motive. I truly don’t want them ever to vote. That’s not gonna change and there’s no plot.

Wow. Sort of agreed except: 1. They need to pay a fine. There has to be some penalty for breaking the law coming here. The public will never accept amnesty with no consequences, nor should they. 2. They should have almost all the rights and duties of citizens but they should never be full citizens in that they should never have the right to vote. Their children can have that.

Don’t do this. You know I am as big a critic of Trump as there is in this forum, but your post is in extremely bad taste and completely unwarranted.

Sure. I’ve said for years fine them $5000 and put them in the system. Warn them that if they ever commit a felony they face immediate deportation, and NEVER allow them to vote. But make them legal. But your solution (deportation no matter what) is impractical, impossible in large numbers, immoral, and frankly anti-American.

No the ones directing them to bother those who aren’t violent criminals, and the folks cheering this policy on, are the bastards. HTH ETA as for the ICE agents themselves, they’re only doing as instructed, but personally I would resign first before I rounded up non violent people in mass numbers.

I’ve posted this before but here is how to donate to the ACLU: https://action.aclu.org/give/now?ms_aff=NAT&initms_aff=NAT&ms=web_hero_redesign_hp&initms=web_hero_redesign_hp&ms_chan=web&initms_chan=web Almost nothing is more important right now.

I’ve been listening to some ACLU lawyers tonight. They are fighting the good fight (they are practically the only ones who are.) They are holding meetings telling these poor migrants who to call, what to do when and if ICE come knocking on their doors. The bastards won’t be able to deport even 5% of the folks they’re talking about, but they are creating terror in the migrant community which is absolutely shameful. Really cheering on the ACLU here.

Nope I expect it. He’ll lose there too. All this stuff is for show. It’s all performative to make you happy. When we look back at this in couple of years, the statistics will show you that (a) there won’t be significantly less undocumented immigrants here than there are now. (b) there won’t be significantly less violent crime here than there is now. And then maybe you’ll realize that you and most of the others here were duped; it was all a clown show that you fell for. But I doubt you’ll ever acknowledge it.

They understand. They would like to believe that it doesn’t protect non-citizens. They are wrong and the Supreme Court has ruled on this matter: https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/facpub/297/ I haven’t read the language of the Laken Riley act so I have no idea if it violates due process. If it does I assume it will be challenged and hopefully thrown out.

No you’re being a reasonable person who isn’t behaving impulsively (in this instance.) You are definitely NOT the Prez. One of the non-ideological, non political reasons I didn’t vote for Trump is because he’s so chaotic. He constantly pulls this crap because he loves to be in the spotlight; I swear that is his #1 motivation always. He’s the most ubiquitous politician we’ve ever had; it’s exhausting. It’s going to be like this for 4 years. We’re only a week in. Most liberals and conservatives I know, despite our differences, have one thing in common: we want our politicians to do their jobs and leave us the fock alone most of the time. We want to live our lives, enjoy our lives, without the constant headlines and chaos. This is even true of political junkies like me.

So now Jerome Powell is a partisan hack? Who appointed him?

We can tell the ones that care because they’re the ones that respond to him.

Can we come up with a new word for “wannabe fascist but too much of a pu$$y to actually do it?” lolololol

Trump: I DEMAND you lower rates! Jerome Powell: I don’t think so. The alpha strikes again!

I already told you. He wants to but he doesn’t have the guts for it. You and all the Republicans surrendered to him; the rest of us aren’t going to. The minute the guy faces any resistance he folds like a cheap suit.

He’s up there right now repeating the condom lie.

And now she has just sent out a memo denying that the rescind was actually a rescind. You can’t make this up.

Sure seems like you’re the triggered one, not me. Your guy surrendered and this is your response? Lololol

Took less than 24 hours and she already looks like a fool as Trump reverses everything she said yesterday. Who would want this job?

Don’t need to rank them. All I need to know is that the list doesn’t include the current guy.

Two words: Jason Kelce. Hall of fame center who perfected it. Doesn’t work as well with anyone else.

@TrailGuy this is why I don’t worry so much about Trump the authoritarian: because he’s such a wussy: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna189852 As I pointed out in the other thread, Trump surrenders more than a World War II French general. The guy just doesn’t have the stones to be a Mussolini, much less a Hitler. He is the least alpha President we have ever had.

This is not historically accurate. It was the unions that busted the practice you’re talking about, not the government. Minimum wage came along as a reaction from the government to Union victories that were already taking place.

This is why I wrote that Trump is an authoritarian wannabe but no Hitler. Because frankly he doesn’t have the balls. The minute he faces the slightest opposition from the public he backs down. That was the story of his last Presidency and it’s the story of this one. Remember how last time he tried to shut down the government and then surrendered to Pelosi? Trump surrenders more than a French general. That’s your alpha.